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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #906

    Seems to me to be too early to say but that is certainly the risk.

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      #907

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #908

        President Trump yesterday:

        They weren't supposed to go after all these other countries in the Middle East. Those missiles were sent to go after them. They hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait,

        Nobody expected that. We were shocked. You know, they fought back.

        He also said something like, "Iran did not have to fight back. They could have yielded."

        #faceslap

        He must have very incompetent advisors, or he does not listen to them. Probably the last, as I dont think that anybody would have said that Iran would not fight back.

        Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          jon-nyc
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          #909

          I’m reminded of when he said in his first term, “Nobody knew how hard health care reform would be”.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

            President Trump yesterday:

            They weren't supposed to go after all these other countries in the Middle East. Those missiles were sent to go after them. They hit Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait,

            Nobody expected that. We were shocked. You know, they fought back.

            He also said something like, "Iran did not have to fight back. They could have yielded."

            #faceslap

            He must have very incompetent advisors, or he does not listen to them. Probably the last, as I dont think that anybody would have said that Iran would not fight back.

            Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:

            RenaudaR Offline
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            Renauda
            wrote last edited by Renauda
            #910

            @taiwan_girl

            Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:

            Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.

            Playing the victim and blaming others when things don’t go the way he wishes, however is His Exalted Ineptitude’s, Trump, M.O. and leadership style. As time goes on it rings more and more hollow.

            What was once described as brilliant 4D chess in matters of foreign policy, can now only be lampooned as a children’s game of snakes and ladders with unacceptably high stakes.

            Elbows up!

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              wrote last edited by
              #911

              Troops to secure the strait?

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                I feel bad for their parents.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
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                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Troops to secure the strait?

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    #914

                    @jon-nyc said:

                    Troops to secure the strait?

                    In addition to the troops from San Diego, I believe that they are also sending some Marine troops from Okinawa base in Japan.

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @taiwan_girl

                      Also, agree with @bachophile that the US had to know that Israel was going to do the bombing they did. 100% Looks like he is starting to throw Isreal "under the bus:

                      Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.

                      Playing the victim and blaming others when things don’t go the way he wishes, however is His Exalted Ineptitude’s, Trump, M.O. and leadership style. As time goes on it rings more and more hollow.

                      What was once described as brilliant 4D chess in matters of foreign policy, can now only be lampooned as a children’s game of snakes and ladders with unacceptably high stakes.

                      taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      @Renauda said:

                      Count me in as well, in fact it is inconceivable that under the current circumstances, the Israelis would not have coordinated this particular mission with US CENCOM.

                      I believe that either PM or Foreign Minister of Isreal at first said that Isreal definitely let the US know what they were doing.

                      Later, the stepped back on that statement. I wonder if there were some pressure from the US to change their statement. 🤔

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                      • RenaudaR Offline
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                        Renauda
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                        #916

                        @taiwan_girl

                        Ya think?

                        555

                        Actually, as much as I dislike Netanyahu, he is the only coherent belligerent in this war. The logic he uses behind Isreal’s engagement and objectives are clearly articulated regardless of whether or not one agrees with him. The same cannot at all be said for his American ally no matter who is behind the mic, the X post or Truth Social tantrum.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • kluursK Offline
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                          kluurs
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                          #917

                          There's reasonable speculation that Israel knew of 9/11 prior to the event and kept silent as it would likely work out in Israel's favor. It isn't out of bounds to think that they might not have shared their plans in the current situation.

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                          • AxtremusA Offline
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                            Now it's The Crusade!

                            https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                            Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                            Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

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                              #919

                              @kluurs

                              There's reasonable speculation that Israel knew of 9/11 prior to the event and kept silent as it would likely work out in Israel's favor.

                              Am sure there’s speculation about it and a lot of other known unknowns. Whether any can be classified as reasonable however remains an unknown unknown.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                Now it's The Crusade!

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                                Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                                Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                                MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote last edited by
                                #920

                                @Axtremus said:

                                Now it's The Crusade!

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                                Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                                Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                                I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  @Axtremus said:

                                  Now it's The Crusade!

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                                  Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                                  Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                                  I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                                  kluursK Offline
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                                  kluurs
                                  wrote last edited by kluurs
                                  #921

                                  @Mik said:

                                  @Axtremus said:

                                  Now it's The Crusade!

                                  https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                                  Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                                  Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                                  I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                                  What a great idea. Let's unite the Muslim world against the infidels. Almost as good as alienating one's allies.

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #922

                                    Taking Kharg? Or winding down?

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                                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                      #923

                                      This could explain the above. The market is pricing in 5.2% inflation for the next 12 months. In 3 weeks, it's gone from pricing in a rate cut to pricing in a rate increase.

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                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        @Axtremus said:

                                        Now it's The Crusade!

                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                                        Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                                        Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                                        I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote last edited by Renauda
                                        #924

                                        @Mik said:

                                        @Axtremus said:

                                        Now it's The Crusade!

                                        https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/us/politics/hegseth-christianity-military.html?unlocked_article_code=1.UlA.cliC.iP-qaWLA9BHi

                                        Hegseth Invokes Divine Purpose to Justify Military Might
                                        Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has imbued U.S. military actions with a Christian moral underpinning that suggests they are divinely sanctioned.

                                        I suppose it's justifiable if you see the world through a religious lens.

                                        A perfectly sound reason then for the rest of NATO to continue to let Trump and Hegseth’s Templars have at it on their own over there.

                                        Not a banner I would ever consider having our troops to fight under.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                          Sweet.

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                                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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