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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote last edited by
    #1205

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/supreme-leader-no-longer-supreme-who-is-calling-the-shots-in-iran/ar-AA21s1s6

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
      wrote last edited by
      #1206

      More snakes and ladders.

      Elbows up!

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      • Tom-KT Offline
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        Tom-K
        wrote last edited by
        #1207

        Can we please just bomb them to hell and move on?

        Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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        • Tom-KT Tom-K

          Can we please just bomb them to hell and move on?

          RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote last edited by Renauda
          #1208

          @Tom-K said:

          Can we please just bomb them to hell and move on?

          Move on to .....?

          I know, Walk me out in the morning dew....

          Elbows up!

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          • MikM Offline
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            wrote last edited by
            #1209

            Now then there is no more morning dew

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Renauda
              wrote last edited by
              #1210

              I guess it doesn't matter anyway

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote last edited by
                #1211

                The money quote:

                “One of the limits of madman theory is that you always have to be the craziest man,” Miller told Stein. “And right now, he's in a game of chicken with ... the craziest sons of b—— in the world. And so it's like, 'okay. So now... now what?' And you can see what happens, which is he says, ‘Oh, I'm gonna end their civilization,’ or, ‘Oh, I'm not gonna extend the ceasefire,’ or, ‘We're gonna go back at their power plants.’ And then when push comes to shove, it's like he doesn't want to do it.”

                While the “madman theory” was popularized by another controversial Republican president, Richard Nixon, Trump’s predecessor used this approach only sporadically, only after deliberately plotting his implementation — and could point to achievements like ending the Vietnam War, preventing nuclear war in the Middle East and opening up relations with China. By contrast, as Stein and Miller noted, Trump seems to act impulsively.

                The difference being that Nixon understood foreign policy, diplomacy and with whom he was dealing. Trump has no clue of any of any of the three.

                https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/trump-trapped-as-his-game-of-chicken-backfires-report/ar-AA21xWij?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=NMTS&cvid=69e9757800c94432a4d2c5d38d00edc6&cvpid=b7fdb46c1386461faa29e6f40bf55ac2&ei=22

                Elbows up!

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  #1212

                  So Donald Trump is threatening NATO allies for not helping enough in a war they weren’t even consulted on, while Russia helps Iran target U.S. forces and gets waivers on oil sanctions.

                  Make that make sense

                  https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/22/trump-nato-allies-consequences-list-00883619

                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #1213

                    Iran refuses to come to more talks in Pakistan. President Trump cancels US personnel (Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner).

                    Was a bit surprised that VP Vance was not scheduled to go this time. Should I read more into that than I should?

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                    • bachophileB Offline
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #1214

                      Vance wasnt on the agenda because Ghalibaf wasnt going. Steve and Jared are at the Aragchi level.

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