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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • Tom-KT Offline
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    Tom-K
    wrote last edited by Tom-K
    #1197

    @Axtremus said:

    Name one.

    Putin.

    He'd be eliminated in a nuclear exchange but it's brought up in his conversations. I'm sure he knows that. And patriotic death is OK for those idiots on the front but it hardly makes for a long range plan of victory for a glorious leader.

    Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      jon-nyc
      wrote last edited by
      #1198

      Interesting and a little sad.

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      • MikM Offline
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        Mik
        wrote last edited by
        #1199

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-long-would-it-take-russia-to-seize-ukraine-un-rep-gives-a-blunt-answer/ar-AA21nEPM

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote last edited by
          #1200

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/will-iran-let-ships-through-in-the-strait-of-hormuz-here-s-what-prediction-market-is-saying/ar-AA21mgvJ?cvpid=01fe292b8b0647a5fa87cff3f8bc6749

          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          • taiwan_girlT Online
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            taiwan_girl
            wrote last edited by taiwan_girl
            #1201

            Screenshot 2026-04-21 at 12.27.40 PM.png

            Real time ship traffic in Strait of Hormuz. Not too much movement.

            https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:56.4/centery:25.8/zoom:8

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote last edited by jon-nyc
              #1202

              Peace talks on hold again. Looks like Iran canceled, followed by us.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • Tom-KT Offline
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                Tom-K
                wrote last edited by
                #1203

                Gas up your cars ASAP!

                Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  Axtremus
                  wrote last edited by
                  #1204

                  What is this? We playing “follow the leader” here?

                  I blockade you!
                  No, I blockade you!
                  I call off the talk!
                  No, I call off the talk!

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #1205

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/supreme-leader-no-longer-supreme-who-is-calling-the-shots-in-iran/ar-AA21s1s6

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    • RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote last edited by
                      #1206

                      More snakes and ladders.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • Tom-KT Offline
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                        Tom-K
                        wrote last edited by
                        #1207

                        Can we please just bomb them to hell and move on?

                        Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                        • Tom-KT Tom-K

                          Can we please just bomb them to hell and move on?

                          RenaudaR Offline
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                          Renauda
                          wrote last edited by Renauda
                          #1208

                          @Tom-K said:

                          Can we please just bomb them to hell and move on?

                          Move on to .....?

                          I know, Walk me out in the morning dew....

                          Elbows up!

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #1209

                            Now then there is no more morning dew

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            • RenaudaR Offline
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                              #1210

                              I guess it doesn't matter anyway

                              Elbows up!

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                              • RenaudaR Offline
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                                Renauda
                                wrote last edited by
                                #1211

                                The money quote:

                                “One of the limits of madman theory is that you always have to be the craziest man,” Miller told Stein. “And right now, he's in a game of chicken with ... the craziest sons of b—— in the world. And so it's like, 'okay. So now... now what?' And you can see what happens, which is he says, ‘Oh, I'm gonna end their civilization,’ or, ‘Oh, I'm not gonna extend the ceasefire,’ or, ‘We're gonna go back at their power plants.’ And then when push comes to shove, it's like he doesn't want to do it.”

                                While the “madman theory” was popularized by another controversial Republican president, Richard Nixon, Trump’s predecessor used this approach only sporadically, only after deliberately plotting his implementation — and could point to achievements like ending the Vietnam War, preventing nuclear war in the Middle East and opening up relations with China. By contrast, as Stein and Miller noted, Trump seems to act impulsively.

                                The difference being that Nixon understood foreign policy, diplomacy and with whom he was dealing. Trump has no clue of any of any of the three.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/trump-trapped-as-his-game-of-chicken-backfires-report/ar-AA21xWij?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=NMTS&cvid=69e9757800c94432a4d2c5d38d00edc6&cvpid=b7fdb46c1386461faa29e6f40bf55ac2&ei=22

                                Elbows up!

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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  #1212

                                  So Donald Trump is threatening NATO allies for not helping enough in a war they weren’t even consulted on, while Russia helps Iran target U.S. forces and gets waivers on oil sanctions.

                                  Make that make sense

                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/22/trump-nato-allies-consequences-list-00883619

                                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                  • taiwan_girlT Online
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                                    taiwan_girl
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #1213

                                    Iran refuses to come to more talks in Pakistan. President Trump cancels US personnel (Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner).

                                    Was a bit surprised that VP Vance was not scheduled to go this time. Should I read more into that than I should?

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                                    • bachophileB Offline
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                                      bachophile
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #1214

                                      Vance wasnt on the agenda because Ghalibaf wasnt going. Steve and Jared are at the Aragchi level.

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                                      • bachophileB bachophile

                                        Vance wasnt on the agenda because Ghalibaf wasnt going. Steve and Jared are at the Aragchi level.

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                                        taiwan_girl
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #1215

                                        @bachophile Ah okay. Thanks!!!

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                                        • bachophileB bachophile

                                          Vance wasnt on the agenda because Ghalibaf wasnt going. Steve and Jared are at the Aragchi level.

                                          RenaudaR Offline
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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote last edited by Renauda
                                          #1216

                                          @bachophile said:

                                          Steve and Jared are at the Aragchi level.

                                          More like Rubio is on the Aragchi level. Putin has demonstrated that at most, Witkoff is on the Dmitriev level- that of a favoured nobody. Witkoff has yet to meet Lavrov outside of being seated at the table during the fleeting Alaska Love-in.

                                          Elbows up!

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