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The Iran War (was Nuclear Program) thread

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  • MikM Mik

    Oh, the diminishment is clearly true and that which I most dislike about him. But his political instincts are first rate. he's turned American politics on its head for 12 years now.

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    Axtremus
    wrote last edited by Axtremus
    #1192

    @Mik said:

    he's turned American politics on its head for 12 years now.

    On the net, for the better or for the worse, in your estimation?

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      wrote last edited by Mik
      #1193

      Time will tell. Like most presidents, a mixed bag.

      Edit: I guess the thing I dislike most is that so many candidates are trying to emulate him.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        #1194

        IMG_2017.jpeg

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          jon-nyc
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          #1195

          And more threats from Iran too

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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            AndyD
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            #1196

            Quite obviously we haven't won this little war yet, so in addition to targetting any weapons & soldiers we need to bomb their ports, ships, bridges, railways, factories, governent buildings and all means of energy production, countrywide.
            Show these Iranian men of iron-will what we can do.

            Then warn the remaining leaders if they attack any ship we will carpet-bomb the nearest two port areas, and show them the true meaning of the phrase obliteration bombing.

            Say we expect nothing less than 'unconditional surrender'

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              Tom-K
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              #1197

              @Axtremus said:

              Name one.

              Putin.

              He'd be eliminated in a nuclear exchange but it's brought up in his conversations. I'm sure he knows that. And patriotic death is OK for those idiots on the front but it hardly makes for a long range plan of victory for a glorious leader.

              Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                jon-nyc
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                #1198

                Interesting and a little sad.

                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  #1199

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/how-long-would-it-take-russia-to-seize-ukraine-un-rep-gives-a-blunt-answer/ar-AA21nEPM

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    #1200

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/will-iran-let-ships-through-in-the-strait-of-hormuz-here-s-what-prediction-market-is-saying/ar-AA21mgvJ?cvpid=01fe292b8b0647a5fa87cff3f8bc6749

                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      #1201

                      Screenshot 2026-04-21 at 12.27.40 PM.png

                      Real time ship traffic in Strait of Hormuz. Not too much movement.

                      https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:56.4/centery:25.8/zoom:8

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #1202

                        Peace talks on hold again. Looks like Iran canceled, followed by us.

                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                        • Tom-KT Offline
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                          Tom-K
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                          #1203

                          Gas up your cars ASAP!

                          Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                            Axtremus
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                            What is this? We playing “follow the leader” here?

                            I blockade you!
                            No, I blockade you!
                            I call off the talk!
                            No, I call off the talk!

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                              #1205

                              https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/supreme-leader-no-longer-supreme-who-is-calling-the-shots-in-iran/ar-AA21s1s6

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                Renauda
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                                #1206

                                More snakes and ladders.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  Tom-K
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                                  Can we please just bomb them to hell and move on?

                                  Ego similis habere bonum et non curat nunquam accipere malum.

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                                  • Tom-KT Tom-K

                                    Can we please just bomb them to hell and move on?

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #1208

                                    @Tom-K said:

                                    Can we please just bomb them to hell and move on?

                                    Move on to .....?

                                    I know, Walk me out in the morning dew....

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • MikM Offline
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                                      #1209

                                      Now then there is no more morning dew

                                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        I guess it doesn't matter anyway

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          Renauda
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                                          The money quote:

                                          “One of the limits of madman theory is that you always have to be the craziest man,” Miller told Stein. “And right now, he's in a game of chicken with ... the craziest sons of b—— in the world. And so it's like, 'okay. So now... now what?' And you can see what happens, which is he says, ‘Oh, I'm gonna end their civilization,’ or, ‘Oh, I'm not gonna extend the ceasefire,’ or, ‘We're gonna go back at their power plants.’ And then when push comes to shove, it's like he doesn't want to do it.”

                                          While the “madman theory” was popularized by another controversial Republican president, Richard Nixon, Trump’s predecessor used this approach only sporadically, only after deliberately plotting his implementation — and could point to achievements like ending the Vietnam War, preventing nuclear war in the Middle East and opening up relations with China. By contrast, as Stein and Miller noted, Trump seems to act impulsively.

                                          The difference being that Nixon understood foreign policy, diplomacy and with whom he was dealing. Trump has no clue of any of any of the three.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/trump-trapped-as-his-game-of-chicken-backfires-report/ar-AA21xWij?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=NMTS&cvid=69e9757800c94432a4d2c5d38d00edc6&cvpid=b7fdb46c1386461faa29e6f40bf55ac2&ei=22

                                          Elbows up!

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