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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      Funny.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        This is a really interesting op-ed from an Israeli journalist, obviously not a fan of Netanyahu. But he presents some worthwhile observations and possibilities.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-s-iran-endgame-is-edging-closer/ar-AA1H1be5

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          Job opening.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
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          • MikM Mik

            This is a really interesting op-ed from an Israeli journalist, obviously not a fan of Netanyahu. But he presents some worthwhile observations and possibilities.

            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-s-iran-endgame-is-edging-closer/ar-AA1H1be5

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            @Mik

            A lot to unpack in that article. Shows that a person can still wholeheartedly support Israel but remain sceptical and even oppose Netanyahu’s governing coalition.

            Elbows up!

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              There sure was, and it's a perspective we don't usually find here.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                So it’s been 48 hours since the night that was supposed to be remembered for centuries….

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                @LuFins-Dad said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                So it’s been 48 hours since the night that was supposed to be remembered for centuries….

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                Education is extremely important.

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                • MikM Mik

                  This is a really interesting op-ed from an Israeli journalist, obviously not a fan of Netanyahu. But he presents some worthwhile observations and possibilities.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-s-iran-endgame-is-edging-closer/ar-AA1H1be5

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                  @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                  This is a really interesting op-ed from an Israeli journalist, obviously not a fan of Netanyahu. But he presents some worthwhile observations and possibilities.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-s-iran-endgame-is-edging-closer/ar-AA1H1be5

                  From the op-ed:

                  And then there’s a wildcard unique to the Iran situation. Even this very dire but familiar scenario relies on the assumption that Israel and America really do know everything about Iran’s nuclear programme and that there wasn’t an emergency, undeclared backup stash of materials and a secret cadre. If there was, and even some of it survives, there will still be a race for the bomb — except the bomb, or bombs, will appear in a fractured, unstable, justifiably paranoid region in a state of civil war. An entirely new nightmare with consequences far beyond Netanyahu and Trump’s terms, or even lifetimes.

                  That seems obvious, but I agree it's not said out loud much.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    @Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:

                    This is a really interesting op-ed from an Israeli journalist, obviously not a fan of Netanyahu. But he presents some worthwhile observations and possibilities.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/netanyahu-s-iran-endgame-is-edging-closer/ar-AA1H1be5

                    From the op-ed:

                    And then there’s a wildcard unique to the Iran situation. Even this very dire but familiar scenario relies on the assumption that Israel and America really do know everything about Iran’s nuclear programme and that there wasn’t an emergency, undeclared backup stash of materials and a secret cadre. If there was, and even some of it survives, there will still be a race for the bomb — except the bomb, or bombs, will appear in a fractured, unstable, justifiably paranoid region in a state of civil war. An entirely new nightmare with consequences far beyond Netanyahu and Trump’s terms, or even lifetimes.

                    That seems obvious, but I agree it's not said out loud much.

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                    @Horace

                    That seems obvious, but I agree it's not said out loud much.

                    It would be what Donald Rumsfeld termed a “known unknown”.

                    Nobody in the know likes to conjecture those in public.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      The Mossad stole 100k documents out of a warehouse that completely documented the program. Problem is, Iran knows that. Some things are hard to change though, especially under-mountain architecture and reactor locations.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        This is interesting to watch, just to see where the heads of this faction of Maga are at. He's proposing a deal where Israel and Iran both give up their nukes.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          Yeah, that’s a non-starter. Israel wants peace with all. Iran’s is death to everyone but us. There’s no equivalence to be found.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Interesting but probably assumes the IRGC retains power after the assassination.

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              Does it mean anything? I don’t know. But here it is.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                Trump posted this.

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                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  This magat is a JD Vance favorite and a frequent TuCa guest.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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