The Iran Nuclear Program thread
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@Mik said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
US military involvement is maybe the worst idea ever.
I would have agreed with that for the vast majority of our history here. I often said that Israel should take it as an existential threat and not let it happen but it was only a peripheral interest of ours.
But I've since come to believe that the model they have in the Middle East - funding and developing proxy armies inside all the other countries - was something they were going to export to Europe, certainly, and in the US if they could pull it off.
I want us to crush their program completely. Knowing that the regime will likely fall.
There are things the US military is bad at and things they're good at. They're bad at bringing democracy to countries without a history of it, but they're damn good at blowing up nuclear sties in mountains. I want them to do this.
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That account just posted 'damn, I really wanted to sleep tonight'. lol
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Polymarket at 67.5%
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Nice visual of poymarket odds.
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wrote on 16 Jun 2025, 23:53 last edited by jon-nyc
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Here we go.
Of course I wanted Bush to do this in 2006.
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I’m not getting any confirmation.
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wrote on 17 Jun 2025, 01:47 last edited by Renauda
@jon-nyc said in The Iran Nuclear Program thread:
MagaRat Taylor Greene is against it.
It, MTG, is so virtuous.
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I just love people who want to define what a real American is.
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Once again I've been offline for a few hours, just put the kids to bed, and now I get my news updates from TNCR! Interesting to scan this thread over the last few hours.
My first thought as @jon-nyc was posting the market odds was... I could see Trump going in for the "gimme putt" after Israel does most of the work, so that we can claim victory.
Nonetheless, Jon you are right there are things we do well and things we don't. Blow shit up is one thing we do really well. And will it cause WW3? I doubt it. I'm not an expert in the slightest, but I can't imagine the big boys like China or Russia are willing to jump into the poker hand for Iran. The folks that count on Iran seem to be the weaker Islamic countries that don't have many chips to play poker with in the first place. So WW3? Doubtful. Iran losing and regime change? Probably... although could be decades of chaos within as a result. Maybe that's a good thing, better than a well-armed and/or nuclear Iran that threatens Israel's existence and by proxy, the western free world.
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wrote on 17 Jun 2025, 02:06 last edited by
I think what we need to consider is just how deep the centrifuges at Fordo are. There’s no guarantee the MOPs would be successful.
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wrote on 17 Jun 2025, 02:33 last edited by
Am more drawn to analyses of events and crises such as this and Ukraine.
A an old friend of mine who lives in Ottawa sent me the following. Pretty compelling reading about Israel’s capabilities and Iran’s lack thereof. A few parallels with what Ukraine has been achieving lately against Russia. Both wars will be studied at military academies for some time to come.
