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Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.

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  • L LuFins Dad
    26 Feb 2025, 16:39

    Pssst, it’s not the entitlements…

    https://budget.house.gov/press-release/op-ed-wall-street-journal-welfare-is-whats-eating-the-budget

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 16:47 last edited by jon-nyc
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    @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

    Pssst, it’s not the entitlements…

    https://budget.house.gov/press-release/op-ed-wall-street-journal-welfare-is-whats-eating-the-budget

    This is really disingenuous. The ticking time bomb that are entitlements won’t actually explode for a decade ergo it’s not the problem.

    Zero out everything he mentions and entitlements still bankrupt us before Finley graduates college.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Copper
      wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 16:52 last edited by
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      This might be a good time to start a balanced budget movement.

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      • J jon-nyc
        26 Feb 2025, 16:47

        @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

        Pssst, it’s not the entitlements…

        https://budget.house.gov/press-release/op-ed-wall-street-journal-welfare-is-whats-eating-the-budget

        This is really disingenuous. The ticking time bomb that are entitlements won’t actually explode for a decade ergo it’s not the problem.

        Zero out everything he mentions and entitlements still bankrupt us before Finley graduates college.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 17:08 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

        Pssst, it’s not the entitlements…

        https://budget.house.gov/press-release/op-ed-wall-street-journal-welfare-is-whats-eating-the-budget

        This is really disingenuous. The ticking time bomb that are entitlements won’t actually explode for a decade ergo it’s not the problem.

        Zero out everything he mentions and entitlements still bankrupt us before Finley graduates college.

        Yeah, remind me again who has been calling for a removal of the FICA caps and a .5% FICA increase?

        The Brad

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 17:10 last edited by
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          But everybody keeps forgetting about the upcoming 25% tariffs. That will take care of everything.

          The Brad

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          • L LuFins Dad
            26 Feb 2025, 17:08

            @jon-nyc said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

            Pssst, it’s not the entitlements…

            https://budget.house.gov/press-release/op-ed-wall-street-journal-welfare-is-whats-eating-the-budget

            This is really disingenuous. The ticking time bomb that are entitlements won’t actually explode for a decade ergo it’s not the problem.

            Zero out everything he mentions and entitlements still bankrupt us before Finley graduates college.

            Yeah, remind me again who has been calling for a removal of the FICA caps and a .5% FICA increase?

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 17:10 last edited by
            #21

            @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

            @jon-nyc said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

            @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

            Pssst, it’s not the entitlements…

            https://budget.house.gov/press-release/op-ed-wall-street-journal-welfare-is-whats-eating-the-budget

            This is really disingenuous. The ticking time bomb that are entitlements won’t actually explode for a decade ergo it’s not the problem.

            Zero out everything he mentions and entitlements still bankrupt us before Finley graduates college.

            Yeah, remind me again who has been calling for a removal of the FICA caps and a .5% FICA increase?

            Me.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
            L 1 Reply Last reply 26 Feb 2025, 17:16
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              Horace
              wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 17:15 last edited by
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              I think everybody on this board has been in favor of a removal of the SS cap.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • J jon-nyc
                26 Feb 2025, 17:10

                @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                @jon-nyc said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                Pssst, it’s not the entitlements…

                https://budget.house.gov/press-release/op-ed-wall-street-journal-welfare-is-whats-eating-the-budget

                This is really disingenuous. The ticking time bomb that are entitlements won’t actually explode for a decade ergo it’s not the problem.

                Zero out everything he mentions and entitlements still bankrupt us before Finley graduates college.

                Yeah, remind me again who has been calling for a removal of the FICA caps and a .5% FICA increase?

                Me.

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 17:16 last edited by
                #23

                @jon-nyc said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                @jon-nyc said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                Pssst, it’s not the entitlements…

                https://budget.house.gov/press-release/op-ed-wall-street-journal-welfare-is-whats-eating-the-budget

                This is really disingenuous. The ticking time bomb that are entitlements won’t actually explode for a decade ergo it’s not the problem.

                Zero out everything he mentions and entitlements still bankrupt us before Finley graduates college.

                Yeah, remind me again who has been calling for a removal of the FICA caps and a .5% FICA increase?

                Me.

                Here’s one of mine - https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/post/328667

                Show me one of yours.

                The Brad

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                • H Horace
                  26 Feb 2025, 17:15

                  I think everybody on this board has been in favor of a removal of the SS cap.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 17:16 last edited by
                  #24

                  @Horace said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                  I think everybody on this board has been in favor of a removal of the SS cap.

                  Ahhh, but a FICA increase as well?

                  The Brad

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                  • H Horace
                    26 Feb 2025, 17:15

                    I think everybody on this board has been in favor of a removal of the SS cap.

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                    89th
                    wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 18:48 last edited by
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                    @Horace said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                    I think everybody on this board has been in favor of a removal of the SS cap.

                    Speak for yourselves! I make $2 million per year and have no need to pay social security after the first $175k... aka what I call January's paycheck.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 18:51 last edited by
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                      BTW if you remove the SS cap, about 12 million people will be paying more (7% of the employed population make more than 175k per year, according to the IRS). Yes, it's more income for the IRS, but also more people pissed off about raised taxes. They'll likely talk about it at their annual caviar charity polo match.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 26 Feb 2025, 22:14 last edited by Jolly
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                        Welfare is abused, ain't no doubt about. Meth is cheap. Pot is cheap. Fentanyl is cheap.

                        One can stay strung out in HUD housing for a long time and not hit a lick at a snake. If they were broke, they couldn't buy drugs. If they were hungry, they would work.

                        There's a reason I walked through a multimillion dollar job earlier this week and saw one white person (the job super), no black people and enough Mexicans to reenact the Battle of the Alamo.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 02:51 last edited by
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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • 8 89th
                            26 Feb 2025, 18:48

                            @Horace said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                            I think everybody on this board has been in favor of a removal of the SS cap.

                            Speak for yourselves! I make $2 million per year and have no need to pay social security after the first $175k... aka what I call January's paycheck.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 03:41 last edited by
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                            @89th said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                            aka what I call

                            Redundant.

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                            • J jon-nyc
                              27 Feb 2025, 02:51

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 27 Feb 2025, 03:41 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Massie: This bill adds 20T to the debt over 10 years.:

                              Will Trump sue the publisher of this poll too?

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 5 Mar 2025, 06:33 last edited by
                                #31

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 5 Mar 2025, 12:52 last edited by
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                                  LOL

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 11 Mar 2025, 16:34 last edited by
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                                    Is he wrong?

                                    “Unless I get a lobotomy Monday that causes me to forget what I’ve witnessed the past 12 years, I’ll be a NO on the CR this week,” Mr. Massie wrote on social media, using the shorthand for a continuing resolution to keep funding the government at current spending levels. “It amazes me that my colleagues and many of the public fall for the lie that we will fight another day.”

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 11 Mar 2025, 16:54 last edited by
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                                      That sounds about right to me.

                                      Will it hurt?

                                      Sure, we are due for a lot of pain, we've put it off long enough.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 11 Mar 2025, 16:56 last edited by
                                        #35

                                        It's not easy but bloody hell we just need like a 20-year simple plan that is immutable. Probably something that echoes what @LuFins-Dad usually says about this topic, spending as a % of GDP or something.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 12 Mar 2025, 22:20 last edited by
                                          #36

                                          Massie is actually fundraising off of Trump’s threats.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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