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What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...

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    Horace
    wrote on 23 Feb 2025, 20:55 last edited by
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    They all have their own internal rules of employee performance review, which is the reasoning being stated by the leaders of the organizations that are pushing back. The request already specifies that no sensitive information should be provided by the employees.

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 10:41 last edited by
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      Elon doubling down.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Mik
        wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 13:07 last edited by
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        The question is who you must show it to.

        Too much of this is for public consumption. "Look what we're DOING for you!".

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          Doctor Phibes
          wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 14:05 last edited by
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          In any decently run company, managers will know what their employees are doing without having them send emails justifying their existence.

          If the manager doesn't know, then he's the one who should be justifying his existence.

          I was only joking

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            Mik
            wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 14:40 last edited by
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            There's a little too much "slacking federal workers are the enemy" for my tastes.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              24 Feb 2025, 14:40

              There's a little too much "slacking federal workers are the enemy" for my tastes.

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              Copper
              wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 14:45 last edited by
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              @Mik said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

              slacking

              Slacking used to be expected.

              "We pretend to work"
              "And they pretend to pay us"

              Low wages were paid for slacking, I think slacking pays better now.

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                22 Feb 2025, 23:26

                There are different ways of thinking about this. In such a large endeavor, meticulousness can lead to analysis paralysis, and government is much given to that.

                I'm not sure it would be possible to get a great grasp on understanding the culture of federal employees, certainly not within the timeframe of one four-year term. I do think though that it might be better to just an across the board 5% cut this year, fix what's broken, another 5% next year and so on.

                A lot of times when large cuts come some things do not continue getting done. very often they are things that don't really need to get done. That's not to say all will be peaches and cream, but here is no way we're going to get spending down painlessly.

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                89th
                wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 15:43 last edited by
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                @Mik said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

                There are different ways of thinking about this. In such a large endeavor, meticulousness can lead to analysis paralysis, and government is much given to that.

                I'm not sure it would be possible to get a great grasp on understanding the culture of federal employees, certainly not within the timeframe of one four-year term. I do think though that it might be better to just an across the board 5% cut this year, fix what's broken, another 5% next year and so on.

                Yeah there is a middle ground to this. I've said this elsewhere. The "move fast and break things" works in iterative software development and makes for good headlines with those outside the government who think most federal workers are just wastes of space... but there is a smarter way to do this that avoids analysis paralysis but also avoids the "oops we just lost the talented folks who help prevent the hacking of our grid, or the people who are watching over our nuke stockpile, or the people helping veterans use their health and education benefits".

                You are right, IMO that it's better to force cuts (I've said this before even Trump)... let agency leaders (like private industry) find where the fat is and cut it. But the RTO, early retirement 8-months of pay, and "oops we need to re-hire you because you didn't reply to Elon's email), is doing nothing but costing the taxpayer more, in net.

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                  24 Feb 2025, 14:05

                  In any decently run company, managers will know what their employees are doing without having them send emails justifying their existence.

                  If the manager doesn't know, then he's the one who should be justifying his existence.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 15:45 last edited by
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

                  In any decently run company, managers will know what their employees are doing without having them send emails justifying their existence.

                  If the manager doesn't know, then he's the one who should be justifying his existence.

                  LOL ain't that the truth

                  And federal agencies generally know too, but are often not allowed to reduce staff or fire people. One good thing Trump did in his first term was remove some of the red tape needed to fire a bad employee. I think that was Schedule F, but not sure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schedule_F_appointment

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 21:39 last edited by
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                    Trump weighs in to clear up any confusion.

                    President Trump said on Monday that Mr. Musk’s email demanding that federal workers justify their jobs was “ingenious” and “great” and repeated Mr. Musk’s written warning: “If you don’t answer, you’re sort of semi-fired or you’re fired.”

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                      24 Feb 2025, 21:39

                      Trump weighs in to clear up any confusion.

                      President Trump said on Monday that Mr. Musk’s email demanding that federal workers justify their jobs was “ingenious” and “great” and repeated Mr. Musk’s written warning: “If you don’t answer, you’re sort of semi-fired or you’re fired.”

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      @jon-nyc said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

                      Trump weighs in to clear up any confusion.

                      President Trump said on Monday that Mr. Musk’s email demanding that federal workers justify their jobs was “ingenious” and “great” and repeated Mr. Musk’s written warning: “If you don’t answer, you’re sort of semi-fired or you’re fired.”

                      I wonder if Trump got an email

                      I was only joking

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                        24 Feb 2025, 22:07

                        @jon-nyc said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

                        Trump weighs in to clear up any confusion.

                        President Trump said on Monday that Mr. Musk’s email demanding that federal workers justify their jobs was “ingenious” and “great” and repeated Mr. Musk’s written warning: “If you don’t answer, you’re sort of semi-fired or you’re fired.”

                        I wonder if Trump got an email

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 22:17 last edited by
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                        @Doctor-Phibes

                        😂

                        Elbows up!

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                          24 Feb 2025, 21:39

                          Trump weighs in to clear up any confusion.

                          President Trump said on Monday that Mr. Musk’s email demanding that federal workers justify their jobs was “ingenious” and “great” and repeated Mr. Musk’s written warning: “If you don’t answer, you’re sort of semi-fired or you’re fired.”

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 24 Feb 2025, 23:20 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

                          Trump weighs in to clear up any confusion.

                          President Trump said on Monday that Mr. Musk’s email demanding that federal workers justify their jobs was “ingenious” and “great” and repeated Mr. Musk’s written warning: “If you don’t answer, you’re sort of semi-fired or you’re fired.”

                          Much clearer.

                          The Brad

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 00:04 last edited by
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                            I just replied to the email NS posted:

                            My answer to Elon:

                            1. Your mom
                            2. Your mom
                            3. Your mom
                            4. A nap
                            5. Your mom

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 01:53 last edited by
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                              My question is: Since there are quite a few government workers, is DOGE going to hire people to read these emails?

                              Let's say there is 1,000,000 federal workers. 100 people read their emails. They can read one every 2 minutes. 30/hr. 240/day.

                              To go through just one week emails would be 42 days. And now they are 6 weeks behind. LOL

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 02:03 last edited by Axtremus
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                                https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/02/24/musk-email-government-confusion/

                                Trump administration tells agencies they can ignore Musk order on email reply

                                
The Office of Personnel Management told HR officials that employees wouldn’t be let go for not replying to an email asking what they did last week.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 04:07 last edited by
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                                  But it will be noted…

                                  The Brad

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 09:43 last edited by
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                                    Yes, it will.

                                    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/federal-workers-agencies-push-back-elon-musks-email-ultimatum-rcna193439

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 09:49 last edited by
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                                      Well, at least we know what some were doing...

                                      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/shocking-nsa-transgender-sex-chat-room-legitimized-as/

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 13:11 last edited by
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                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          25 Feb 2025, 09:49

                                          Well, at least we know what some were doing...

                                          https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/shocking-nsa-transgender-sex-chat-room-legitimized-as/

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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on 25 Feb 2025, 13:25 last edited by
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                                          @Jolly said in What did you get done last week? Elon wants to know...:

                                          Well, at least we know what some were doing...

                                          https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/shocking-nsa-transgender-sex-chat-room-legitimized-as/

                                          In fairness, a lot of work hours have been spent on TNCR, sometimes discussing the same subject, albeit not in quite so much detail. 😄

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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