Well, die then.
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@Jolly said in Well, die then.:
Therefore, I can only surmise your principles demand that we throw a good heart in the gut bucket.
It's actually the mother's principles that are dictating that.
You're saying there's no logic behind the medical decision, but you have no problem defending the woman who's essentially saying the voices in her head told her not to get her compromised child vaccinated.
And I don't necessarily agree with the medics, but I sure as shit think the mother is flat out wrong.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Well, die then.:
@Jolly said in Well, die then.:
Therefore, I can only surmise your principles demand that we throw a good heart in the gut bucket.
It's actually the mother's principles that are dictating that.
You're saying there's no logic behind the medical decision, but you have no problem defending the woman who's essentially saying the voices in her head told her not to get vaccinated.
And I don't necessarily agree with the medics, but I sure as shit think the mother is flat out wrong.
Not hers. Yours.
You are demanding that the child receive a treatment with maybe a 25% (and dropping) success rate or you will deny her child a 50% chance of living at least another ten years.
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A lot of rapists and murderers have said they heard voices telling them to do what they did.
The alleged imaginary whispers of some holy spirit forbidding a vaccine do not stand scrutiny under any circumstance.
It’s either superstition or mental illness. Possibly a pathological combination of both. Take your pick.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Well, die then.:
@Jolly said in Well, die then.:
Therefore, I can only surmise your principles demand that we throw a good heart in the gut bucket.
It's actually the mother's principles that are dictating that.
You're saying there's no logic behind the medical decision, but you have no problem defending the woman who's essentially saying the voices in her head told her not to get vaccinated.
And I don't necessarily agree with the medics, but I sure as shit think the mother is flat out wrong.
Not hers. Yours.
You are demanding that the child receive a treatment with maybe a 25% (and dropping) success rate or you will deny her child a 50% chance of living at least another ten years.
@Jolly said in Well, die then.:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Well, die then.:
@Jolly said in Well, die then.:
Therefore, I can only surmise your principles demand that we throw a good heart in the gut bucket.
It's actually the mother's principles that are dictating that.
You're saying there's no logic behind the medical decision, but you have no problem defending the woman who's essentially saying the voices in her head told her not to get vaccinated.
And I don't necessarily agree with the medics, but I sure as shit think the mother is flat out wrong.
Not hers. Yours.
You are demanding that the child receive a treatment with maybe a 25% (and dropping) success rate or you will deny her child a 50% chance of living at least another ten years.
You didn't read what I said. I said I don't necessarily agree with the medics.
And I'm not demanding anything. I'm commenting on a news story.
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And let me tell you something else, sister... I've been a white coat for over 40 years. Hospital staff works on a shitload of patients that may not make it or are a waste of resources.
Just last Sunday, my little part of the world pulled out all the stops to save a 62 year-old alky with seizures, most likely due to her 328 blood ETOH. I know it was 328, because I ran it diluted vs. undiluted and took the average, since the diluted result was within the AMR.
By your thinking, maybe we should have parked the gurney in the parking lot and let nature take it's course.
After all, we can make our treatment rules, can't we?
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And let me tell you something else, sister... I've been a white coat for over 40 years. Hospital staff works on a shitload of patients that may not make it or are a waste of resources.
Just last Sunday, my little part of the world pulled out all the stops to save a 62 year-old alky with seizures, most likely due to her 328 blood ETOH. I know it was 328, because I ran it diluted vs. undiluted and took the average, since the diluted result was within the AMR.
By your thinking, maybe we should have parked the gurney in the parking lot and let nature take it's course.
After all, we can make our treatment rules, can't we?
@Jolly said in Well, die then.:
By your thinking, maybe we should have parked the gurney in the parking lot and let nature take it's course.
Haven't you said in the past that people who won't look after themselves should be left to die?
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There is no next child in line, per se.
Either a heart matches or it does not.
Therefore, I can only surmise your principles demand that we throw a good heart in the gut bucket.
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As of the latest available data, precise numbers of pediatric patients currently on the heart transplant waiting list are not publicly disclosed in real-time. However, historical data provides some context:
• Transplants Performed: In 2020, there were 465 pediatric heart transplants performed in the United States, a slight decrease from 509 in 2019. 
• Waitlist Outcomes: A study analyzing pediatric heart transplant candidates listed between July 2016 and April 2019 found that out of 1,789 candidates, 65% underwent heart transplantation, 14% died or deteriorated while waiting, 8% were removed from the list due to improvement, and 13% were still waiting at the end of the study period. These figures suggest that at any given time, there are several hundred pediatric patients awaiting heart transplants in the U.S. For the most current and specific numbers, it’s advisable to consult the Organ Procurement and Transplantation Network (OPTN) or the Scientific Registry of Transplant Recipients (SRTR), which regularly publish detailed statistics on transplant waitlists and outcomes.
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@Jolly said in Well, die then.:
There is no next child in line, per se.
Either a heart matches or it does not.
Therefore, I can only surmise your principles demand that we throw a good heart in the gut bucket.
There’s always someone next in line.
@jon-nyc said in Well, die then.:
@Jolly said in Well, die then.:
There is no next child in line, per se.
Either a heart matches or it does not.
Therefore, I can only surmise your principles demand that we throw a good heart in the gut bucket.
There’s always someone next in line.
Not that matches.