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At what point, if any, will ubiquitous cameras become a 4A issue?

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  • J Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 01:26 last edited by
    #1

    Especially when AI and facial recognition are involved?

    A preview of some of the issues with, for now, license plate readers.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 14:23 last edited by
      #2

      Maybe I am not knowing much about this, but cameras are used all over. A fuzzy picture can be cleared up, etc. Not sure why a license plate would be different. 🤷

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 14:26 last edited by
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        Not sure what you mean. This isn’t about technical capabilities, it’s about whether ubiquitous tracking at some points will be considered an ā€˜unreasonable search’ under the 4th amendment.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • J jon-nyc
          7 Feb 2025, 14:26

          Not sure what you mean. This isn’t about technical capabilities, it’s about whether ubiquitous tracking at some points will be considered an ā€˜unreasonable search’ under the 4th amendment.

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 15:52 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc I guess what I was trying to say is that it is already there.

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            Mik
            wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 15:53 last edited by
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            It's worth considering. How much of an invasion of privacy is this, or not, while using public thoroughfares?

            ā€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.ā€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Copper
              wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 17:27 last edited by
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              We have a license plate reader at the entrance to our neighborhood, I don't like it.

              The idea is that only the police can see the plates, it is supposed to catch criminals who come here to burglarize our homes.

              In the 3-4 years it has been installed I don't think it has caught anyone.

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              • C Copper
                7 Feb 2025, 17:27

                We have a license plate reader at the entrance to our neighborhood, I don't like it.

                The idea is that only the police can see the plates, it is supposed to catch criminals who come here to burglarize our homes.

                In the 3-4 years it has been installed I don't think it has caught anyone.

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                taiwan_girl
                wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 17:40 last edited by
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                @Copper Has anyone been burgled?

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 19:03 last edited by
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                  No.

                  Before the camera they were a few cases where things were removed from unlocked cars.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 19:30 last edited by
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                    Cameras are everywhere in the UK, and they've helped catch criminals, solve murders etc.

                    I'm not convinced it's worth it.

                    I was only joking

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:35 last edited by
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                      The innocent have nothing to fear.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                        Rich
                        wrote on 7 Feb 2025, 20:38 last edited by
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                        Well then we'll just have to come up with something for them to be guilty of.

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