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  • JollyJ Jolly

    Now, what is actually going to happen?

    Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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    #76

    @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

    Now, what is actually going to happen?

    Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

    What about the part where no business leader would plan for an integrated supply chain anymore?

    And what’s actually happening at the Canadian border that’s causing such a mess in the US? That’s still not very clear to people. Hard to address a problem without knowing what it is.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      Now, what is actually going to happen?

      Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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      @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      Now, what is actually going to happen?

      Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away.

      That is my hope.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Now, what is actually going to happen?

        Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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        #78

        @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        Now, what is actually going to happen?

        Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

        Tightens up the border? For what? How many migrants are busted from Canada? How much Fentanyl has been shipped into the US from Canada? The only complaint that I’ve seen about the Canadian border is that it’s too difficult to get in…

        The Brad

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          jon-nyc
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          #79

          If you listen to the administration it seems like the fentanyl stuff, at least with respect to Canada, was necessary as a legal basis for tariffs under Trump’s rebranded NAFTA. But many of his comments seem to indicate a concern about trade deficits if not the very idea of imports, which he considers subsidies.

          That’s why I asked the question ‘where are these demands?’

          I don’t think any have been made, since that would require some coherent goal in the first place.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            #80

            This seems accurate.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              From 2023...

              https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fentanyl-canada-export-1.7030758

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Now, what is actually going to happen?

                Canada tightens up the border and tariff goes away. Mexico is going to be more interesting...By declaring the cartels terrorist organizations, it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

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                Renauda
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                #82

                @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                …..it means we can drop a SEAL team into the country, if we choose.

                Excuse me, it’s not if you [the US] chooses to drop a military strike team into Canada.

                Let me remind you that we have exclusive agency on our sovereign territory. If the US wants a criminal or terrorist target on our territory taken out, US law enforcement will work in cooperation with the responsible Canadian law enforcement agency to devise and execute a joint mission under Canadian command and control. If any military force needs to be engaged to meet the mission objective it will be in a Canadian uniform.

                Elbows up!

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  From 2023...

                  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fentanyl-canada-export-1.7030758

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                  @Jolly said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  From 2023...

                  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fentanyl-canada-export-1.7030758

                  At least it’s not from Rebel News.

                  555

                  Anyway the article proves nothing to justify Trump’s sanctions and don’t think for a moment that the RCMP have not been working with US law enforcement agencies to deal with this issue long before this article was published.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • RenaudaR Renauda

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc

                    Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                    No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                    Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

                    Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

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                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    @jon-nyc

                    Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                    No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                    Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

                    Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

                    It's Shopify, not Spotify.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      @jon-nyc

                      Where’s that quote from? Trump himself?

                      No the Canadian CEO of Spotify

                      Thanks. I don’t use Spotify and don’t know anyone who does.

                      Am sure consumers here will respond and boycott accordingly .

                      It's Shopify, not Spotify.

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                      #85

                      @Mik

                      Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • RenaudaR Renauda

                        @Mik

                        Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

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                        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        @Mik

                        Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

                        His business here will pay dearly for that tweet.

                        Elbows up!

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                        • RenaudaR Renauda

                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @Mik

                          Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

                          His business here will pay dearly for that tweet.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          @Mik

                          Thanks. We never use Shopify. In fact, I’ve never heard of it until this thread.

                          His business here will pay dearly for that tweet.

                          Currently in Wikipedia....

                          "Tobias Lütke (born 1980[1][2]) is a traitor, and German/Canadian entrepreneur and racing driver who is the co-founder and CEO of Shopify, an e-commerce company based in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada.[4][5][6][7] He has been part of the core team of the Ruby on Rails framework and has created open source libraries such as Active Merchant.[8] As of 2022, he was the 11th richest Canadian.[9] As of November 2024, his net worth was US$9.9 billion.[10] He currently competes in the 2025 IMSA SportsCar Championship driving in LMP2 for Era Motorsport.[11]"

                          I was only joking

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            If you listen to the administration it seems like the fentanyl stuff, at least with respect to Canada, was necessary as a legal basis for tariffs under Trump’s rebranded NAFTA. But many of his comments seem to indicate a concern about trade deficits if not the very idea of imports, which he considers subsidies.

                            That’s why I asked the question ‘where are these demands?’

                            I don’t think any have been made, since that would require some coherent goal in the first place.

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                            #88

                            @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            If you listen to the administration it seems like the fentanyl stuff, at least with respect to Canada, was necessary as a legal basis for tariffs under Trump’s rebranded NAFTA. But all his own comments seem to indicate a concern about trade deficits if not the very idea of imports, which he considers subsidies.

                            That’s why I asked the question ‘where are these demands?’

                            I don’t think any have been made, since that would require some coherent goal in the first place.

                            Trump has been all over the board on this since he started on us in November. Without going into detail we have bent backwards to the tune of $1. 8 billion in increased border security to appease his concerns. Same with Defence spending commitments. All of which have been and continue to be coordinated with not only the responsible US agencies but directly with his appointees to cabinet. Then Trump moves the goal posts to the trade deficit. Now yesterday it’s back again to border security.

                            We have no issue with his security fears and concerns. Nor do we have issue with trade and investment irritants and issues.
                            All require diplomacy, dialogue and cooperation and those are the paths we have consistently pursued to address the problems. He has unilaterally rejected all paths to resolution and chose instead to levy unjustified punitive sanctions on not only our economy but our national sovereignty.

                            There is no transparency whatsoever in Trump’s demands or policy

                            For all I know Trump is punishing Canada at Putin’s request or order, for its unwavering support of Ukraine.

                            Spoke to my long time Finnish friend (Best Man at my wedding and oil executive) in Helsinki this morning. He is convinced Putin has kompromat on Trump and uses it at will. Who knows?

                            Elbows up!

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                              Canadians boo US National Anthem....

                              https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3348gk8my0o

                              A few hours after President Donald Trump announced that he would impose steep tariffs on Canada, hockey fans in the capital Ottawa booed the Star-Spangled Banner during a National Hockey League game against a visiting US team.

                              On Sunday, during a National Basketball Association game between the Toronto Raptors and the Los Angeles Clippers, it happened again, continuing throughout the song and almost drowning out the 15-year-old's singer's arena performance.

                              The vocal displeasure from usually respectful fans is a clear sign of Canadians' deep dismay at Trump's move to hit its nearest ally with punitive taxes, which threaten to spark an unprecedented trade war on the North American continent.

                              The 25% tariffs imposed by Trump on all Canadian imports into the US - with a lower 10% levy on energy - are set to take effect on Tuesday.

                              And they come as President Trump doubles down on his push - no longer dismissed as a joke - for Canada to join America and become the 51st state.

                              Hearts and minds...

                              I was only joking

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                                We’re asking hockey fans at Oilers games here not to boo or jeer the American anthem.

                                Instead fans are encouraged to turn their backs to the rink and remain totally silent for the duration of the US anthem.

                                Then loudly and proudly sing their hearts out in English and French throughout Oh Canada

                                Elbows up!

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                                  2% dip in the US stock market futures.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Friday's drop was ~1.7% from announcement to close.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      A Honda Civic just went from $24,250 base to $29K…

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                      A Honda Civic just went from $24,250 base to $29K…

                                      IMG_2657.jpeg

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        Canadians boo US National Anthem....

                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3348gk8my0o

                                        A few hours after President Donald Trump announced that he would impose steep tariffs on Canada, hockey fans in the capital Ottawa booed the Star-Spangled Banner during a National Hockey League game against a visiting US team.

                                        On Sunday, during a National Basketball Association game between the Toronto Raptors and the Los Angeles Clippers, it happened again, continuing throughout the song and almost drowning out the 15-year-old's singer's arena performance.

                                        The vocal displeasure from usually respectful fans is a clear sign of Canadians' deep dismay at Trump's move to hit its nearest ally with punitive taxes, which threaten to spark an unprecedented trade war on the North American continent.

                                        The 25% tariffs imposed by Trump on all Canadian imports into the US - with a lower 10% levy on energy - are set to take effect on Tuesday.

                                        And they come as President Trump doubles down on his push - no longer dismissed as a joke - for Canada to join America and become the 51st state.

                                        Hearts and minds...

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        Canadians boo US National Anthem....

                                        https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3348gk8my0o

                                        Hearts and minds...

                                        Certainly our backsides.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                                          A diagram from Cato showing just one example of modern auto supply chains and why tariffs get amplified throughout the network.

                                          IMG_2699.jpeg

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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