Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread
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@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.
If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.
If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.
@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.
If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.
That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…
The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.
The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?
The Brad
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But now that you brought it up, what are the rates like for the uncovered? If I was visiting Alberta, and had a sudden acute appendicitis, I’m sure I would get a surgery and care, but how exactly would that work? My insurance but out of network? Or would I be completely on the hook?
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@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
They’d lose more than that in health and retirement benefits.
There would be no reason for that. They have the funds and the programs already built. There is no reason that they can’t continue. States can have their own state run healthcare and retirement plans if they choose…
Not really workable with a single payer system. What’s to stop people from moving to Toronto when they need expensive treatment?
It would be simple enough to prorate for those that would try to abuse the system.
Doesn’t work that way. If Inmove to Toronto tomorrow and fall ill my current provincial health care picks up the tab for the next six months at which time Ontario residency then comes into effect and Ontario insurance takes over. There are sometimes differentials between provinces that need to covered out of pocket. As well as exemptions for some categories of seniors.
If you really want to know the system here works ask bach. He knows it better than any Canadian on this forum.
That’s still essentially irrelevant. The individual Canadian States could easily allow reciprocity within their individual state health systems while excluding states that do not have single payer. If a resident would move from one of the original 50 states, they would be required to maintain COBRA or independent health insurance until a predetermined amount of time established by your province/states. Now, the pain would be if you moved to another state that didn’t have Single Payer and you then had to acquire insurance…
The interesting thing to me would be to see How many new states would introduce Single Payer systems. I’ve always wondered what has prevented a large liberal state like California from introducing their own Single Payer system.
The other interesting thing to see would be migration. Would the new states see a large influx of new residents?
Sorry but I am not m going any further down this road. You have been corrected and the remainder, as you say, is irrelevant.
No part of what you republocrats are discussing is going to happen. Canada will remain sovereign and under Westminster Parliamentary governance.
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There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.
It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.
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There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.
It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.
@Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.
It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.
A far simpler solution would be for the US to ditch its pretentions of being a real country, and re-join Great Britain. You'd get to share head of state with Canada and everything.
Go on, you know you want it.
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@Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
A real king might be fun.
Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example
They're all dead. All you've really got left is Burger King, and he's running the gaff now.
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@Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
A real king might be fun.
Ragnar Lothbrok, Elvis Presley or Brian Boru for example
They're all dead. All you've really got left is Burger King, and he's running the gaff now.
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There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.
It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.
@Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.
Really? Sentiment, you say. I would call it something else.
It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.
Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.
Elbows up!
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@Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
There seems to be some sentiment against making Canada the 51st.
Really? Sentiment, you say. I would call it something else.
It might be easier to just take a few good provinces, and then let the others just catch up over time.
Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.
@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.
I have a lot more to say about it than you, I am a voter. You will be told what your role is when the time comes.
Study for the Test, English and Civics: https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/find-study-materials-and-resources/study-for-the-test
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@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.
I have a lot more to say about it than you, I am a voter. You will be told what your role is when the time comes.
Study for the Test, English and Civics: https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/find-study-materials-and-resources/study-for-the-test
@Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
@Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:
Might easier if idiots such as you shut up since you have nothing to say on the matter any way.
I have a lot more to say about it than you, I am a voter. You will be told what your role is when the time comes.
Study for the Test, English and Civics: https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship/find-study-materials-and-resources/study-for-the-test
You have sweet fuck all to say about this topic.
And the time has come for me to tell you about your role…
You’re a voting idiot, a Trumpsucking one at that and a bastard Copperhead as well. You know fucking well what a Copperhead is and it is not a compliment to a northern bred Yank prick like you.
Now either do what I told you and get out my corner or fuck off and die. Preferably the latter.
In the meantime you can kiss my arse with your reactionary MAGAt bullshit.
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“On again, off again, on again, off again, on again, off again” tariffs are “weighing heavily” on the Canadian energy sector writ large, Jonathan Wilkinson, Canada’s Minister of Energy and Natural Resources, told Forbes during CERAWeek, the S&P Global conference in Houston.
Tariff threats breed uncertainty, which paralyzes global energy investment, he said. “Businesses don’t know whether they should be making investments because they don’t know if the rules are going to change three months from now,” Wilkinson said.
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Of the 50 critical minerals, Canada owns the lion’s share of production of the top five--lithium, cobalt, copper, nickel, and manganese—collectively, thanks to its domestic industry and its interest in international mines.
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In the absence of the U.S. by its side, Canada is looking to secure stronger alliances with Japan, South Korea, the European Union and Australia, a critical mineral powerhouse.
“The Japanese have been one of the best partners with investment in many critical mineral projects in Canada. The EU is enormously interested as are many of the member states,” Wilkinson said. “They need [critical minerals] and they don’t have them,” he said.
As South Korea is a car manufacturing hub, it is also an interested buyer, he added.
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I am so proud be a citizen of “nastiest” country in the world. Nasty!
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What a mind.
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Actually if you listen to what he says, he gives away his poker hand. He says "we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy"... aka that is EXACTLY what Trump wants. The trade deficit thing is purely a distraction.
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Actually if you listen to what he says, he gives away his poker hand. He says "we don't need their lumber, we don't need their energy"... aka that is EXACTLY what Trump wants. The trade deficit thing is purely a distraction.
if you subtract the Canadian oil and gas imports into the US, the USA runs a trade surplus for goods and services exported to Canada.
As well Trump is wholly disingenuous about the dairy trade. For one, Canada is the largest importer of US dairy products in the world. Secondly, US dairy products have never been subjected to Canadian tariffs simply because the US has never even met its allowable quota of dairy exports let alone exceed them. The 250% tariff is there only if the allowable quota under the terms of CUSMA are exceeded. Here are the facts spelled out in plain detail:
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7483049
Trump conveniently ignores the fact that CUSMA bears his signature.
