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  • 8 89th
    12 Mar 2025, 19:34

    How does one even say pyrrhic?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 12 Mar 2025, 20:50 last edited by
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    @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

    How does one even say pyrrhic?

    Rhymes with orange lyric.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 00:53 last edited by
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      https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadians-stung-by-trumps-tariffs-rhetoric-balk-us-travel-2025-03-12/

      Travelers are responding with their wallets. New bookings to the United States from Canada have declined about 20% since February 1 compared with the year-ago period, according to Forward Keys, a flight ticketing data firm.

      United Airlines (UAL.O) CEO Scott Kirby said on Tuesday the company has adjusted its capacity due to a big drop in incoming traffic from Canada.

      "We've lost a lot of interest in going to the States in general," said Allyson C., 34, from Vancouver, who canceled her family's summer vacation to Washington, D.C., citing the on-again, off-again tariffs and the U.S. exchange rate.

      This worries the U.S. travel industry. Inbound travel to the United States is still just 90% of pre-pandemic levels, Geoff Freeman, CEO of the U.S. Travel Association, said in an interview.

      No other country's residents go to the United States more than Canada, which notched 20.4 million visits in 2024. Canadian travelers also spend three times more on vacations than domestic U.S. travelers, said Freeman.

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        xenon
        wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 03:27 last edited by
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        The US is going to start requiring visitor registration at Canadian land borders.

        U.S. Said to Tell Canada That It Will Enforce a Visitor Registration Law

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/trump-canada-registration-immigration.html

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          Renauda
          wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 03:37 last edited by Renauda
          #352

          No big deal. It only affects people planning to stay in the US over 30 consecutive days.

          Everyone I know has cancelled their travel plans to the US this spring and summer. Those I know who winter in Arizona are now looking elsewhere next winter- Mexico, Costa Rica, Belize, Trinidad, St. Marie, St. Helena, Malta, Albania, Montenegro, Terra
          del Fuego, Port Wenn, Hull, Tromso, Faroe Islands, Shetland Islands and Aberdeen with a stop over in Dundee and a capercaillie hunt in Banff.

          Elbows up!

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 08:38 last edited by
            #353

            He’s such a cancer.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              13 Mar 2025, 00:53

              https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadians-stung-by-trumps-tariffs-rhetoric-balk-us-travel-2025-03-12/

              Travelers are responding with their wallets. New bookings to the United States from Canada have declined about 20% since February 1 compared with the year-ago period, according to Forward Keys, a flight ticketing data firm.

              United Airlines (UAL.O) CEO Scott Kirby said on Tuesday the company has adjusted its capacity due to a big drop in incoming traffic from Canada.

              "We've lost a lot of interest in going to the States in general," said Allyson C., 34, from Vancouver, who canceled her family's summer vacation to Washington, D.C., citing the on-again, off-again tariffs and the U.S. exchange rate.

              This worries the U.S. travel industry. Inbound travel to the United States is still just 90% of pre-pandemic levels, Geoff Freeman, CEO of the U.S. Travel Association, said in an interview.

              No other country's residents go to the United States more than Canada, which notched 20.4 million visits in 2024. Canadian travelers also spend three times more on vacations than domestic U.S. travelers, said Freeman.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 10:46 last edited by
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              @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              ... Canadian travelers also spend three times more on vacations than domestic U.S. travelers, said Freeman.

              This makes me feel sad. 😞

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                Renauda
                wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:14 last edited by
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                According to Nutlick, EU and Canadian retaliatory tariffs are disrespectful:

                The US commerce secretary says the EU's move to raise tariffs in response to America's own tariffs is "disrespectful".

                Speaking to Bloomberg, Howard Lutnick says: "The president has made it crystal clear that he finds this tit-for-tat really abusive and aggravating.

                https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2gprz84rlt?post=asset%3A44b395d7-8a37-43df-b34e-9fdd20a138ff#post

                Double down and cosplay the victim. That’s fundamental to the Trumpigula playbook..

                Elbows up!

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 15:33 last edited by
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                  Shorter lines at Disney.

                  And lower domestic vacation prices.

                  Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

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                    13 Mar 2025, 15:33

                    Shorter lines at Disney.

                    And lower domestic vacation prices.

                    Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

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                    Renauda
                    wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 16:14 last edited by Renauda
                    #357

                    @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    Shorter lines at Disney.

                    And lower domestic vacation prices.

                    Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

                    Passive aggression is a tactic of the weak. You seem to relish its use- KathyK did as well and, like yourself, she too was intellectually bankrupt and was called to account on a daily basis. In your case the drive-by snark attack like the one above only illustrates just how frivolous and dim witted the MAGAt Brethren presents itself to the world. No wonder you garner no respect.

                    Elbows up!

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 18:56 last edited by xenon
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                      He says today he’s not gonna bend, subsidizing Canada for $200B a year and the only way Canada works is as a state.

                      At what point do you (can you) pull the plug on this guy

                      Link to video

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 19:18 last edited by
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                        He’s such a cancer.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          89th
                          wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 19:37 last edited by
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                          What is he even talking about? Not joking. "We don't need anything from Canada" and "We are subsidizing them". What?

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                            89th
                            wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 19:37 last edited by
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                            Regarding the "someone just drew a line" and the border, here's a youtube video he should probably watch:

                            Link to video

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                              89th
                              wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 19:41 last edited by
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                              Regarding "we don't need anything from them". Yeah, ok...let's try to have an economy if we remove Canadian:

                              • Oil and gas
                              • Cars
                              • Electricity
                              • Lumber
                              • Aluminum

                              What a maroon.

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                                Copper
                                wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 19:45 last edited by
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                                You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

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                                  13 Mar 2025, 19:45

                                  You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

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                                  xenon
                                  wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 19:49 last edited by
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                                  @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

                                  Not everyone is cut out to be a groupie.

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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 19:49 last edited by
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                                    He sure is pushing a lot of America's chips to the center of the table in this ploy to, what, save a few 10s of billions in some trade agreements that he hopes Canada is motivated to amend? Create a bunch of manufacturing jobs where the workers will be paid so much more than their global counterparts that their products will have no value on the global market?

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      xenon
                                      wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 19:53 last edited by
                                      #366

                                      That’s the most charitable interpretation.

                                      He could be doing this just because he wants to see others cave (even if we end up at the same or worse spot relative to where we started).

                                      Or he’s a true believer.

                                      I think it’s 2 or 3… but don’t really know.

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 19:57 last edited by
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                                        The market continues to lend more credence to his seriousness about this stuff, a day at a time. I'm not sure where it'd end up at 100% credence that these tariffs are permanent, and America is essentially isolationist. But I'm very sure that that would not be an economically great America.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          xenon
                                          wrote on 13 Mar 2025, 20:01 last edited by xenon
                                          #368

                                          I dunno - I haven’t heard specific businesses complain yet. They might be afraid of the political ramifications from being the first to speak up.

                                          I know from first hand experience right now that this is making business planning impossible.

                                          If it’s like anything else in politics, government won’t react until the problem has gotten really bad.

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