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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
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    #356

    Shorter lines at Disney.

    And lower domestic vacation prices.

    Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

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    • CopperC Copper

      Shorter lines at Disney.

      And lower domestic vacation prices.

      Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

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      Renauda
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      #357

      @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      Shorter lines at Disney.

      And lower domestic vacation prices.

      Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

      Passive aggression is a tactic of the weak. You seem to relish its use- KathyK did as well and, like yourself, she too was intellectually bankrupt and was called to account on a daily basis. In your case the drive-by snark attack like the one above only illustrates just how frivolous and dim witted the MAGAt Brethren presents itself to the world. No wonder you garner no respect.

      Elbows up!

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        xenon
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        #358

        He says today he’s not gonna bend, subsidizing Canada for $200B a year and the only way Canada works is as a state.

        At what point do you (can you) pull the plug on this guy

        Link to video

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          jon-nyc
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          #359

          He’s such a cancer.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
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            #360

            What is he even talking about? Not joking. "We don't need anything from Canada" and "We are subsidizing them". What?

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              #361

              Regarding the "someone just drew a line" and the border, here's a youtube video he should probably watch:

              Link to video

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                89th
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                #362

                Regarding "we don't need anything from them". Yeah, ok...let's try to have an economy if we remove Canadian:

                • Oil and gas
                • Cars
                • Electricity
                • Lumber
                • Aluminum

                What a maroon.

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  #363

                  You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

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                    #364

                    @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                    You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

                    Not everyone is cut out to be a groupie.

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                      #365

                      He sure is pushing a lot of America's chips to the center of the table in this ploy to, what, save a few 10s of billions in some trade agreements that he hopes Canada is motivated to amend? Create a bunch of manufacturing jobs where the workers will be paid so much more than their global counterparts that their products will have no value on the global market?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        xenon
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                        #366

                        That’s the most charitable interpretation.

                        He could be doing this just because he wants to see others cave (even if we end up at the same or worse spot relative to where we started).

                        Or he’s a true believer.

                        I think it’s 2 or 3… but don’t really know.

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #367

                          The market continues to lend more credence to his seriousness about this stuff, a day at a time. I'm not sure where it'd end up at 100% credence that these tariffs are permanent, and America is essentially isolationist. But I'm very sure that that would not be an economically great America.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            xenon
                            wrote on last edited by xenon
                            #368

                            I dunno - I haven’t heard specific businesses complain yet. They might be afraid of the political ramifications from being the first to speak up.

                            I know from first hand experience right now that this is making business planning impossible.

                            If it’s like anything else in politics, government won’t react until the problem has gotten really bad.

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                            • CopperC Copper

                              You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

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                              Renauda
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                              #369

                              @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

                              If you want to contribute something to this thread then write something that gives the rest of us at least a slight impression that there is something other than shit between your ears.

                              You have nothing to say other than your usual trite snark so STFU.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                He sure is pushing a lot of America's chips to the center of the table in this ploy to, what, save a few 10s of billions in some trade agreements that he hopes Canada is motivated to amend? Create a bunch of manufacturing jobs where the workers will be paid so much more than their global counterparts that their products will have no value on the global market?

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #370

                                @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                He sure is pushing a lot of America's chips to the center of the table in this ploy to, what, save a few 10s of billions in some trade agreements that he hopes Canada is motivated to amend? Create a bunch of manufacturing jobs where the workers will be paid so much more than their global counterparts that their products will have no value on the global market?

                                Pretty good summary.

                                @xenon about businesses complaining, I think the big businesses are a bit hesitant to criticize yet, but it'll come once their financial statements start to kill their stock price. And small businesses are ABSOLUTELY getting hosed (to use a Canadian term) right now since many rely on imported goods to support their product offerings.

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                                • X xenon

                                  That’s the most charitable interpretation.

                                  He could be doing this just because he wants to see others cave (even if we end up at the same or worse spot relative to where we started).

                                  Or he’s a true believer.

                                  I think it’s 2 or 3… but don’t really know.

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                                  89th
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                                  @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  He could be doing this just because he wants to see others cave (even if we end up at the same or worse spot relative to where we started).

                                  My prediction (note I have a losing track record lately) is that he's doing this to distract from the other land expansion idea (Greenland) where he's making bold statements and massive distractions with secretly the end goal of allowing Greenland to vote for its own independence and/or eventually become an unincorporated territory of the United States, similar to Puerto Rico. That would give the USA certain rights over the land, including natural resources and defense, while not needing to modify how many stars are on the American flag.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    He sure is pushing a lot of America's chips to the center of the table in this ploy to, what, save a few 10s of billions in some trade agreements that he hopes Canada is motivated to amend? Create a bunch of manufacturing jobs where the workers will be paid so much more than their global counterparts that their products will have no value on the global market?

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                    #372

                                    @Horace

                                    Create a bunch of manufacturing jobs where the workers will be paid so much more than their global counterparts that their products will have no value on the global market?

                                    That is question I have been wrestling with the past week or so. Sooner or later Trump will have to take on the unions to drive down the cost of labour. And not by any small margin either. He seems oblivious to the fact that manufacturing moved elsewhere owing to the high cost of US labour. We struggle with the same issue here in Canada but to a much lesser extent in part because of higher personal income taxes. Also industry here is not burdened with having to administer costly employee benefit packages such as private health care insurance or even pension funds.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #373

                                      The simplest explanation is that he thinks trade deficits are a per se bad thing and tariffs are a per se good thing.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • X xenon

                                        He says today he’s not gonna bend, subsidizing Canada for $200B a year and the only way Canada works is as a state.

                                        At what point do you (can you) pull the plug on this guy

                                        Link to video

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #374

                                        @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        He says today he’s not gonna bend, subsidizing Canada for $200B a year and the only way Canada works is as a state.

                                        The more he goes on about the more we are viewing it as a destabilising threat:

                                        "Is [Trump] trying to change political views in this country? If so, that's foreign interference," said Dick Fadden, who also headed CSIS and served as national security adviser to former prime minister Stephen Harper.

                                        "It's no more acceptable from the United States than it is from China or Russia or anybody else."

                                        https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7479890

                                        Elbows up!

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                                          xenon
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                                          #375

                                          Despite being such an amazing communicator, he seems to have zero empathy. As in I really don’t think he can conceptualize how this is landing with Canadians.

                                          I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s autistic, but others have mentioned it:

                                          Link to video

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