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    xenon
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    #348

    That’s a matter for Congress anyways. Like tariffs should be.

    Interestingly again - Trump was President last time corporate tax rates were set.

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      How does one even say pyrrhic?

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      jon-nyc
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      @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      How does one even say pyrrhic?

      Rhymes with orange lyric.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        #350

        https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadians-stung-by-trumps-tariffs-rhetoric-balk-us-travel-2025-03-12/

        Travelers are responding with their wallets. New bookings to the United States from Canada have declined about 20% since February 1 compared with the year-ago period, according to Forward Keys, a flight ticketing data firm.

        United Airlines (UAL.O) CEO Scott Kirby said on Tuesday the company has adjusted its capacity due to a big drop in incoming traffic from Canada.

        "We've lost a lot of interest in going to the States in general," said Allyson C., 34, from Vancouver, who canceled her family's summer vacation to Washington, D.C., citing the on-again, off-again tariffs and the U.S. exchange rate.

        This worries the U.S. travel industry. Inbound travel to the United States is still just 90% of pre-pandemic levels, Geoff Freeman, CEO of the U.S. Travel Association, said in an interview.

        No other country's residents go to the United States more than Canada, which notched 20.4 million visits in 2024. Canadian travelers also spend three times more on vacations than domestic U.S. travelers, said Freeman.

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          xenon
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          The US is going to start requiring visitor registration at Canadian land borders.

          U.S. Said to Tell Canada That It Will Enforce a Visitor Registration Law

          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/trump-canada-registration-immigration.html

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            Renauda
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            #352

            No big deal. It only affects people planning to stay in the US over 30 consecutive days.

            Everyone I know has cancelled their travel plans to the US this spring and summer. Those I know who winter in Arizona are now looking elsewhere next winter- Mexico, Costa Rica, Belize, Trinidad, St. Marie, St. Helena, Malta, Albania, Montenegro, Terra
            del Fuego, Port Wenn, Hull, Tromso, Faroe Islands, Shetland Islands and Aberdeen with a stop over in Dundee and a capercaillie hunt in Banff.

            Elbows up!

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              jon-nyc
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              #353

              He’s such a cancer.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canadians-stung-by-trumps-tariffs-rhetoric-balk-us-travel-2025-03-12/

                Travelers are responding with their wallets. New bookings to the United States from Canada have declined about 20% since February 1 compared with the year-ago period, according to Forward Keys, a flight ticketing data firm.

                United Airlines (UAL.O) CEO Scott Kirby said on Tuesday the company has adjusted its capacity due to a big drop in incoming traffic from Canada.

                "We've lost a lot of interest in going to the States in general," said Allyson C., 34, from Vancouver, who canceled her family's summer vacation to Washington, D.C., citing the on-again, off-again tariffs and the U.S. exchange rate.

                This worries the U.S. travel industry. Inbound travel to the United States is still just 90% of pre-pandemic levels, Geoff Freeman, CEO of the U.S. Travel Association, said in an interview.

                No other country's residents go to the United States more than Canada, which notched 20.4 million visits in 2024. Canadian travelers also spend three times more on vacations than domestic U.S. travelers, said Freeman.

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                Axtremus
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                #354

                @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                ... Canadian travelers also spend three times more on vacations than domestic U.S. travelers, said Freeman.

                This makes me feel sad. 😞

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                  #355

                  According to Nutlick, EU and Canadian retaliatory tariffs are disrespectful:

                  The US commerce secretary says the EU's move to raise tariffs in response to America's own tariffs is "disrespectful".

                  Speaking to Bloomberg, Howard Lutnick says: "The president has made it crystal clear that he finds this tit-for-tat really abusive and aggravating.

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cx2gprz84rlt?post=asset%3A44b395d7-8a37-43df-b34e-9fdd20a138ff#post

                  Double down and cosplay the victim. That’s fundamental to the Trumpigula playbook..

                  Elbows up!

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                    Copper
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                    #356

                    Shorter lines at Disney.

                    And lower domestic vacation prices.

                    Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

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                      Shorter lines at Disney.

                      And lower domestic vacation prices.

                      Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

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                      Renauda
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                      #357

                      @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                      Shorter lines at Disney.

                      And lower domestic vacation prices.

                      Can we raise those tariffs again, please?

                      Passive aggression is a tactic of the weak. You seem to relish its use- KathyK did as well and, like yourself, she too was intellectually bankrupt and was called to account on a daily basis. In your case the drive-by snark attack like the one above only illustrates just how frivolous and dim witted the MAGAt Brethren presents itself to the world. No wonder you garner no respect.

                      Elbows up!

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                        xenon
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                        #358

                        He says today he’s not gonna bend, subsidizing Canada for $200B a year and the only way Canada works is as a state.

                        At what point do you (can you) pull the plug on this guy

                        Link to video

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #359

                          He’s such a cancer.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            89th
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                            What is he even talking about? Not joking. "We don't need anything from Canada" and "We are subsidizing them". What?

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                              89th
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                              Regarding the "someone just drew a line" and the border, here's a youtube video he should probably watch:

                              Link to video

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                                89th
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                                Regarding "we don't need anything from them". Yeah, ok...let's try to have an economy if we remove Canadian:

                                • Oil and gas
                                • Cars
                                • Electricity
                                • Lumber
                                • Aluminum

                                What a maroon.

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                                  Copper
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                                  #363

                                  You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

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                                    You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

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                                    xenon
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                                    #364

                                    @Copper said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    You didn't attend a lot of Trump rallies, did you?

                                    Not everyone is cut out to be a groupie.

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                                      Horace
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                                      He sure is pushing a lot of America's chips to the center of the table in this ploy to, what, save a few 10s of billions in some trade agreements that he hopes Canada is motivated to amend? Create a bunch of manufacturing jobs where the workers will be paid so much more than their global counterparts that their products will have no value on the global market?

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        xenon
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                                        That’s the most charitable interpretation.

                                        He could be doing this just because he wants to see others cave (even if we end up at the same or worse spot relative to where we started).

                                        Or he’s a true believer.

                                        I think it’s 2 or 3… but don’t really know.

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                                          Horace
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                                          The market continues to lend more credence to his seriousness about this stuff, a day at a time. I'm not sure where it'd end up at 100% credence that these tariffs are permanent, and America is essentially isolationist. But I'm very sure that that would not be an economically great America.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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