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    xenon
    wrote on last edited by xenon
    #279

    Remember when the government wasn’t supposed to pick winners and losers?

    Does anyone have any principles or is everything post-hoc rationalizations?

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      @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      I think Lutnick is, like a schoolyard sycophant laughing at the bully's lame jokes.

      (I think it's Lutnick who is always near trump laughing at his jokes during press conferences?)

      Link to video

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      @Doctor-Phibes said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      I think Lutnick is, like a schoolyard sycophant laughing at the bully's lame jokes.

      (I think it's Lutnick who is always near trump laughing at his jokes during press conferences?)

      Link to video

      Holy crap that is perfect.

      Also I'm a proud dad that my 4 year old knows who salacrious crumb is.

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      • RenaudaR Renauda

        @xenon

        No big deal.

        Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs on all vehicles manufactured under CUSMA to which the US is legally still bound to adhere.

        I think the auto industry read Trump the riot act and he blinked. He’s now looking for a way to extricate himself the legal black hole he been taking the country.

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        @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs

        That is sooooo fortunate. They should be able to build the necessary suppliers and plants in the US in the next 30 days. 555

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          taiwan_girl
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          #282

          Saw something that said he is looking to remove farm products from the tariffs.

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            jon-nyc
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            #283

            Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs

              That is sooooo fortunate. They should be able to build the necessary suppliers and plants in the US in the next 30 days. 555

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              Renauda
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              #284

              @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

              Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs

              That is sooooo fortunate. They should be able to build the necessary suppliers and plants in the US in the next 30 days. 555

              If not that, then it will give the auto makers’ legal teams extra to put the finishing touches on their lawsuits challenging the Trump regime’s rationale to invoke the sanctions against their industry’s well established and cost efficient supply chain management system.

              Apparently, the Trumpigula regime doesn’t understand that laissez-faire implies the exact opposite of government micro-management of private industry.

              555

              Elbows up!

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

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                #285

                @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

                That would be only done at the request or acquiescence of the Government of Saskatchewan. I don’t see that happening at present, although that could change very quickly.

                Elbows up!

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                  xenon
                  wrote on last edited by xenon
                  #286

                  All goods likely exempt for 1 month.

                  https://nypost.com/2025/03/06/business/goods-covered-by-usmca-will-be-exempt-from-tariffs-for-month-howard-lutnick-says/

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                  • X xenon

                    All goods likely exempt for 1 month.

                    https://nypost.com/2025/03/06/business/goods-covered-by-usmca-will-be-exempt-from-tariffs-for-month-howard-lutnick-says/

                    alt text

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                    Renauda
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                    #287

                    @xenon

                    Wonder what happened. Someone showed Trumpma copy of CUSMA bearing his signature? A YouTube video of him proclaiming it the greatest trade and investment deal in history?

                    Fear of taking yet another Canuck elbow to the teeth for telling more lies about us?

                    Edit (one hour later):

                    Not yet clear whether Canadian exports are included in the pause or carve outs. Lutnick says one thing then WH maintains otherwise.

                    In the meantime Ontario has confirmed it will levy a 25% surcharge on electricity exports into NY, Michigan and Minnesota (sorry 89).

                    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-electricity-surcharge-us-tariffs-ford-1.7476515

                    Elbows up!

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #288

                      The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        #289

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

                        Seriously? Trump will consider it a win if he also gets to stick it to the voters in two states that went for Kamala in 24 and Biden in 20.

                        The Brad

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                          I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                          There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                          Link to video

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                          • kluursK kluurs

                            I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                            There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                            Link to video

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                            I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact.

                            That's quite possibly true for a number of his bright ideas.

                            I was only joking

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                            • kluursK kluurs

                              I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                              There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                              Link to video

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                              Renauda
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                              #292

                              @kluurs

                              Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two

                              That may be a long time but who knows, eh? As long the regime down there behaves like an ass we’ll give it back in kind and buy from the other guy.

                              In the meantime, well elbow and lampoon the Yankee with impunity and have a good self deprecating laugh as appropriate:

                              Link to video

                              Elbows up!

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                                xenon
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                                #293

                                It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                                https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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                                • X xenon

                                  It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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                                  @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                  It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

                                  Ah, mysterious people hiding in the shadows.

                                  I think it's pretty obvious why the stock market is going to shit, and blaming the Jews globalists really isn't going to cut it.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #295

                                    Oh Noes!

                                    It’s the Barge!

                                    Eeeeek!

                                    Elbows up!

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                                    • kluursK kluurs

                                      I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                                      There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                                      Link to video

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      About that shipping/ship building video that @kluurs posted ...

                                      1. Just a suspicion ... the speaker maybe a long time China bull or China supporter so may have a pro-China bias. Just a suspicion as I see quite a few YouTube channels/personalities that regularly pump out reasonable-sounding (sometimes even academic) pro-China analysis. I don't have anything to refute what is presented in that video.

                                      2. Quite impressive that the speaker can complete the entire monologue in such a polished manner in one take. I admire that skill.

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                                        Renauda
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                                        #297

                                        The following 22 minute video link is to last evening’s CBC At Issue panel that convenes every Thursday to mull over the week’s big news events in the country. The three panelists are the among the top political pundits in the country. Naturally this week the trade war is front and centre. Anyone wanting to how all thus chaos is understood here should listen to the clip. It’s telling just how much damage the Trump regime is causing to the bilateral relations of the two countries and the level of trust Canadians have maintained towards their southern neighbour. Pour a coffee and listen to how they explain the nation’s sentiment of betrayal and resentment towards the current chaos brought about the current regime in the WH:

                                        https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6675435

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • kluursK kluurs

                                          I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                                          There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                                          Link to video

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                                          @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                          Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning

                                          THis is my biggest fear; not only Canada but other US allies who have been allies for decades will begin to look elsewhere.

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