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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #288

    The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

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      #289

      @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

      The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

      Seriously? Trump will consider it a win if he also gets to stick it to the voters in two states that went for Kamala in 24 and Biden in 20.

      The Brad

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      • kluursK Offline
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        #290

        I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

        There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

        Link to video

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        • kluursK kluurs

          I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

          There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

          Link to video

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #291

          @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact.

          That's quite possibly true for a number of his bright ideas.

          I was only joking

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          • kluursK kluurs

            I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

            There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

            Link to video

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            Renauda
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            #292

            @kluurs

            Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two

            That may be a long time but who knows, eh? As long the regime down there behaves like an ass we’ll give it back in kind and buy from the other guy.

            In the meantime, well elbow and lampoon the Yankee with impunity and have a good self deprecating laugh as appropriate:

            Link to video

            Elbows up!

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              #293

              It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

              https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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              • X xenon

                It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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                @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

                Ah, mysterious people hiding in the shadows.

                I think it's pretty obvious why the stock market is going to shit, and blaming the Jews globalists really isn't going to cut it.

                I was only joking

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  Renauda
                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                  #295

                  Oh Noes!

                  It’s the Barge!

                  Eeeeek!

                  Elbows up!

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                  • kluursK kluurs

                    I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                    There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                    Link to video

                    AxtremusA Away
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                    Axtremus
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                    #296

                    About that shipping/ship building video that @kluurs posted ...

                    1. Just a suspicion ... the speaker maybe a long time China bull or China supporter so may have a pro-China bias. Just a suspicion as I see quite a few YouTube channels/personalities that regularly pump out reasonable-sounding (sometimes even academic) pro-China analysis. I don't have anything to refute what is presented in that video.

                    2. Quite impressive that the speaker can complete the entire monologue in such a polished manner in one take. I admire that skill.

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                      Renauda
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                      #297

                      The following 22 minute video link is to last evening’s CBC At Issue panel that convenes every Thursday to mull over the week’s big news events in the country. The three panelists are the among the top political pundits in the country. Naturally this week the trade war is front and centre. Anyone wanting to how all thus chaos is understood here should listen to the clip. It’s telling just how much damage the Trump regime is causing to the bilateral relations of the two countries and the level of trust Canadians have maintained towards their southern neighbour. Pour a coffee and listen to how they explain the nation’s sentiment of betrayal and resentment towards the current chaos brought about the current regime in the WH:

                      https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6675435

                      Elbows up!

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                      • kluursK kluurs

                        I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                        There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                        Link to video

                        taiwan_girlT Offline
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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #298

                        @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                        Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning

                        THis is my biggest fear; not only Canada but other US allies who have been allies for decades will begin to look elsewhere.

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                          Renauda
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                          #299

                          As Canadians knew all along, the US threat of sanctions against us were never about fentanyl or illegal immigration across its northern border. It was our auto sector:

                          The biggest risk for Canada is now coming into focus. And it's bad news if you're one of the hundreds of thousands of Canadians with a job connected to the auto sector. His target may be you.

                          In closed-door conversation, members of Trump's team have been pushing auto companies in recent days to commit to drastically scaling back their long-term footprints in Canada and Mexico in exchange for permanent tariff relief — without success so far, according to three sources connected to the industry, who spoke on condition they not be named.

                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trade-war-trump-plans-auto-sector-1.7477139

                          Elbows up!

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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            LuFins Dad
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                            It’s the union sellout.

                            The Brad

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                              Horace
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                              #301

                              I don't see how anti-competitive union jobs in the auto industry in America are good for anybody but employees of the auto industry in America.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                jon-nyc
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                                #302

                                Like guarantees not to automate our ports.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  A technologically luddite America will give a very small blip of an uptick to jobs numbers or whatever, and a permanent destruction of our competitiveness globally.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #304

                                    Not surprised that you get it, Horace.
                                    Now try to get it through to the lotus eaters American Moses discipleship.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      LuFins Dad
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                                      This crap here is exactly what I was concerned about when O’Brien started hanging around the GOP.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        A technologically luddite America will give a very small blip of an uptick to jobs numbers or whatever, and a permanent destruction of our competitiveness globally.

                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #306

                                        @Horace said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                        A technologically luddite America will give a very small blip of an uptick to jobs numbers or whatever, and a permanent destruction of our competitiveness globally.

                                        What I don't understand is how Trump can't see this stuff.

                                        Is he a cynic or an idiot?

                                        I was only joking

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                                          A true believer…

                                          The Brad

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