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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 5 Mar 2025, 23:59 last edited by
    #278

    One of the bugs, or if you’re Trump, features, of tariffs is the opportunity for corruption by granting exceptions.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      xenon
      wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 00:56 last edited by xenon 15 days from now
      #279

      Remember when the government wasn’t supposed to pick winners and losers?

      Does anyone have any principles or is everything post-hoc rationalizations?

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      • D Doctor Phibes
        5 Mar 2025, 19:04

        @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        I think Lutnick is, like a schoolyard sycophant laughing at the bully's lame jokes.

        (I think it's Lutnick who is always near trump laughing at his jokes during press conferences?)

        Link to video

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        89th
        wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 03:29 last edited by
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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        @89th said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

        I think Lutnick is, like a schoolyard sycophant laughing at the bully's lame jokes.

        (I think it's Lutnick who is always near trump laughing at his jokes during press conferences?)

        Link to video

        Holy crap that is perfect.

        Also I'm a proud dad that my 4 year old knows who salacrious crumb is.

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        • R Renauda
          5 Mar 2025, 23:32

          @xenon

          No big deal.

          Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs on all vehicles manufactured under CUSMA to which the US is legally still bound to adhere.

          I think the auto industry read Trump the riot act and he blinked. He’s now looking for a way to extricate himself the legal black hole he been taking the country.

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 14:22 last edited by
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          @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

          Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs

          That is sooooo fortunate. They should be able to build the necessary suppliers and plants in the US in the next 30 days. 555

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            taiwan_girl
            wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 14:30 last edited by
            #282

            Saw something that said he is looking to remove farm products from the tariffs.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 14:31 last edited by
              #283

              Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • T taiwan_girl
                6 Mar 2025, 14:22

                @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs

                That is sooooo fortunate. They should be able to build the necessary suppliers and plants in the US in the next 30 days. 555

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                Renauda
                wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:42 last edited by Renauda 16 days from now
                #284

                @taiwan_girl said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                @Renauda said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                Well the CEO’s of Ford, GM and Stellantis pushed back and were granted a 30 day postponement on tariffs

                That is sooooo fortunate. They should be able to build the necessary suppliers and plants in the US in the next 30 days. 555

                If not that, then it will give the auto makers’ legal teams extra to put the finishing touches on their lawsuits challenging the Trump regime’s rationale to invoke the sanctions against their industry’s well established and cost efficient supply chain management system.

                Apparently, the Trumpigula regime doesn’t understand that laissez-faire implies the exact opposite of government micro-management of private industry.

                555

                Elbows up!

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                • J jon-nyc
                  6 Mar 2025, 14:31

                  Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 15:56 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                  Hopefully Canada will put export taxes on the potash.

                  That would be only done at the request or acquiescence of the Government of Saskatchewan. I don’t see that happening at present, although that could change very quickly.

                  Elbows up!

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                    xenon
                    wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 17:12 last edited by xenon 16 days from now
                    #286

                    All goods likely exempt for 1 month.

                    https://nypost.com/2025/03/06/business/goods-covered-by-usmca-will-be-exempt-from-tariffs-for-month-howard-lutnick-says/

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                    • X xenon
                      6 Mar 2025, 17:12

                      All goods likely exempt for 1 month.

                      https://nypost.com/2025/03/06/business/goods-covered-by-usmca-will-be-exempt-from-tariffs-for-month-howard-lutnick-says/

                      alt text

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 18:10 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 01:38
                      #287

                      @xenon

                      Wonder what happened. Someone showed Trumpma copy of CUSMA bearing his signature? A YouTube video of him proclaiming it the greatest trade and investment deal in history?

                      Fear of taking yet another Canuck elbow to the teeth for telling more lies about us?

                      Edit (one hour later):

                      Not yet clear whether Canadian exports are included in the pause or carve outs. Lutnick says one thing then WH maintains otherwise.

                      In the meantime Ontario has confirmed it will levy a 25% surcharge on electricity exports into NY, Michigan and Minnesota (sorry 89).

                      https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-electricity-surcharge-us-tariffs-ford-1.7476515

                      Elbows up!

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 20:30 last edited by
                        #288

                        The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

                        The Brad

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                        • L LuFins Dad
                          6 Mar 2025, 20:30

                          The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 20:31 last edited by
                          #289

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                          The Michigan one will hurt Trump. The other two? Not so much…

                          Seriously? Trump will consider it a win if he also gets to stick it to the voters in two states that went for Kamala in 24 and Biden in 20.

                          The Brad

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                            kluurs
                            wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 21:09 last edited by
                            #290

                            I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                            There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                            Link to video

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                            • K kluurs
                              6 Mar 2025, 21:09

                              I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                              There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                              Link to video

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 6 Mar 2025, 22:34 last edited by
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                              @kluurs said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                              I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact.

                              That's quite possibly true for a number of his bright ideas.

                              I was only joking

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                              • K kluurs
                                6 Mar 2025, 21:09

                                I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                                There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                                Link to video

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 01:56 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 01:58
                                #292

                                @kluurs

                                Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two

                                That may be a long time but who knows, eh? As long the regime down there behaves like an ass we’ll give it back in kind and buy from the other guy.

                                In the meantime, well elbow and lampoon the Yankee with impunity and have a good self deprecating laugh as appropriate:

                                Link to video

                                Elbows up!

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                                  xenon
                                  wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 02:04 last edited by
                                  #293

                                  It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                                  https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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                                  • X xenon
                                    7 Mar 2025, 02:04

                                    It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 02:16 last edited by
                                    #294

                                    @xenon said in Canadian Tariff situation gets its own thread:

                                    It’s the globalists that tanked the market, the globalists

                                    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/06/trump-blames-globalists-for-stock-market-sell-off.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=user/CNBC

                                    Ah, mysterious people hiding in the shadows.

                                    I think it's pretty obvious why the stock market is going to shit, and blaming the Jews globalists really isn't going to cut it.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Renauda
                                      wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 02:17 last edited by Renauda 3 Aug 2025, 16:09
                                      #295

                                      Oh Noes!

                                      It’s the Barge!

                                      Eeeeek!

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • K kluurs
                                        6 Mar 2025, 21:09

                                        I'm following Canadian groups - and one thing I don't think I've heard much about - but even if the Trump abandoned all of the tariff talk today, the resentment he's built will have a longer lasting impact. Many folks in Canada are moving away from American products - and many with no intention of returning as Trump has instilled a "buy Canadian" mindset that may not die for a generation or two. The longer he plays with this, the more people will joint that crowd. Further, once other supply chains are built, why change back unless there is a compelling reason to do so? As for industries that are interdependent between multiple nations, you can't buy yesterday - and once we have lost a manufacturing capability - which our nation's leadership bought into for 30 years, getting it back ain't easy.

                                        There's a wonderful video on shipbuilding. Tell me that we can do what China has done - not a chance.

                                        Link to video

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 12:37 last edited by
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                                        About that shipping/ship building video that @kluurs posted ...

                                        1. Just a suspicion ... the speaker maybe a long time China bull or China supporter so may have a pro-China bias. Just a suspicion as I see quite a few YouTube channels/personalities that regularly pump out reasonable-sounding (sometimes even academic) pro-China analysis. I don't have anything to refute what is presented in that video.

                                        2. Quite impressive that the speaker can complete the entire monologue in such a polished manner in one take. I admire that skill.

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                                          Renauda
                                          wrote on 7 Mar 2025, 16:06 last edited by Renauda 3 Jul 2025, 16:14
                                          #297

                                          The following 22 minute video link is to last evening’s CBC At Issue panel that convenes every Thursday to mull over the week’s big news events in the country. The three panelists are the among the top political pundits in the country. Naturally this week the trade war is front and centre. Anyone wanting to how all thus chaos is understood here should listen to the clip. It’s telling just how much damage the Trump regime is causing to the bilateral relations of the two countries and the level of trust Canadians have maintained towards their southern neighbour. Pour a coffee and listen to how they explain the nation’s sentiment of betrayal and resentment towards the current chaos brought about the current regime in the WH:

                                          https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6675435

                                          Elbows up!

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