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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    China’s government is projecting confidence that it can outlast the U.S. in a protracted trade war in large part because of the potential damage inflicted by its restrictions on rare earth metals, said Eswar Prasad, a Cornell University economist who has spoken this week with Chinese finance officials.
    “That is the choke point,” Prasad said. “Beijing does not feel like it is going to back down and that the U.S. is in no position to dictate terms. A big, big part of that is rare earths, where they feel they have the capacity to do significant harm to American manufacturers.”

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    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

    China’s government is projecting confidence that it can outlast the U.S. in a protracted trade war in large part because of the potential damage inflicted by its restrictions on rare earth metals, said Eswar Prasad, a Cornell University economist who has spoken this week with Chinese finance officials.
    “That is the choke point,” Prasad said. “Beijing does not feel like it is going to back down and that the U.S. is in no position to dictate terms. A big, big part of that is rare earths, where they feel they have the capacity to do significant harm to American manufacturers.”

    Seems like it is happening unfortunately

    A group representing auto suppliers in the United States called on Wednesday for immediate action to address China's restricted exports of rare earths, minerals and magnets, warning the issue could quickly disrupt auto parts production.

    and

    https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-auto-suppliers-say-immediate-action-needed-china-rare-earths-restrictions-2025-06-05/

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      Gilead announced an $11B investment into new US manufacturing. Kraft is investing an additional $3 billion into new American manufacturing facilities. Carrier is investing $1 billion into a new factory, creating 4K jobs. The Dow is up roughly 3800 over last year. Not great, but not a disaster, either. It’s not all doom and gloom…

      The Brad

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        Too lazy to check, but:

        1. How do those investments compare to normal corporate manufacturing expenditures?
        2. How often are these announced investments actually realized?
        3. The DOW is up 8% since this time last year, but down 4% since Trump took over (was down 15% but has bounced back after a few TACO Tuesdays)
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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          You fail to catch the point.

          The Brad

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            Probably, I only read your last post and commented.

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              Mission accomplished. We can stop the tariffs now.

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              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                Mission accomplished. We can stop the tariffs now.

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                @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                Mission accomplished. We can stop the tariffs now.

                And that's just Tesla's.

                I was only joking

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                  Actually, I think it’s okay to buy Teslas again…

                  The Brad

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    Trade deficit cut in half. What’s cut in half you might ask? The spike in trade deficit that was the result of companies racing to import before liberation day. Another headline could’ve said, trade deficit returns to what the average was during the Biden administration.

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                      .1% CPI increase as opposed to the predicted .3%. Stock Futures jump, and Bond Rate drops…

                      The Brad

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                      • 89th8 Offline
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                        I presume we can trust the data but at this point who knows what is being manipulated for the Dear Leader.

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                          Hey! The S&P has finally returned to what it was on Inauguration Day, woohoo!

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                            Nice!

                            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                            -Cormac McCarthy

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              Bring out da gimp.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                Now someone needs to ask the Ag Secretary if cows are farm animals.

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Bring out da gimp.

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                                  @jon-nyc

                                  Not taxes?

                                  Really now…..

                                  Elbows up!

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                                    Hey, if he's Honorable, clearly words have no meaning.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      I presume we can trust the data but at this point who knows what is being manipulated for the Dear Leader.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                                      I presume we can trust the data but at this point who knows what is being manipulated for the Dear Leader.

                                      I think we’d hear about it from career guys with green eye shades that compile it.

                                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                      -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        Hey! The S&P has finally returned to what it was on Inauguration Day, woohoo!

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                                        @89th said in Trumpenomics:

                                        Hey! The S&P has finally returned to what it was on Inauguration Day, woohoo!

                                        I wonder what’s going to happen today….

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                                          Surprisingly muted reaction so far. Futures down 1.2%.

                                          Much bigger reaction in oil.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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