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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    This jives with what I gleaned from a call with the CIO of Merrill about a week ago. They have access to all the BofA retail info which touches about a quarter of all consumers.

    They said that the top 10% of earners’ spending is up 7% yoy while the bottom 90% have been retrenching.

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    No reason to be cautious, with all those factory jobs coming. I'd be spending like a drunken sailor. Like a drunken sailor who was about to get a sweet factory job.

    Education is extremely important.

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      I’ll admit to being a little surprised. It’s not obvious why they should have been retrenching in Q1. The fear of tariff-related inflation and job losses is more of a future concern. You’d also expect higher income people to be more clued in on the risks than the common man.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        It's unprecedented! It's historical!

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/14/trump-tariffs-china-trade/

        Since the inauguration on Jan. 20, Trump administration officials have announced new or revised tariff policies more than 50 times, according to a tally by The Washington Post. (A separate tally by Reed Smith, a law firm, has found about 55 such actions.) Trump has issued more than a dozen tariff-related executive orders, or about one per week ..:

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I’ll admit to being a little surprised. It’s not obvious why they should have been retrenching in Q1. The fear of tariff-related inflation and job losses is more of a future concern. You’d also expect higher income people to be more clued in on the risks than the common man.

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          @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

          I’ll admit to being a little surprised. It’s not obvious why they should have been retrenching in Q1. The fear of tariff-related inflation and job losses is more of a future concern. You’d also expect higher income people to be more clued in on the risks than the common man.

          Common men fear for the future and tighten belts right away; higher income people say let's buy more and stock up before tariffs get real?

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            Sure, but that assumes the common man and the higher income folks both have similar intuitions that tariffs are going to harm them economically in the immediate future.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Link to video

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                That’s a lot of emergencies.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Corporate greed strikes again.

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      Yeah, cause margins don’t exist. Remember when the Republicans were yelling at Biden for blaming inflation on greedy Jewish grocers?

                      The Brad

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                        You either die a tariff hawk, or live long enough to embrace greedflation.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          Has Bernie responded?

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                            I’m sure he’ll be hypocritical too.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Cliff Asness comments:

                              I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Cliff Asness comments:

                                I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                Cliff Asness comments:

                                I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

                                Yep.

                                At least Trump will make pro capitalism noises though.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                  Cliff Asness comments:

                                  I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

                                  Yep.

                                  At least Trump will make pro capitalism noises though.

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                                  @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                  Cliff Asness comments:

                                  I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

                                  Yep.

                                  At least Trump will make pro capitalism noises though.

                                  Perhaps along with also more ICE raids at Walmart locations?

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                                    Maybe the phone isn’t really ringing off the hook.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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