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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    #918

    OMG HE STOPPED FENTANYL!

    HE WON THE WAR ON DRUGS.

    I was only joking

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #919

      This jives with what I gleaned from a call with the CIO of Merrill about a week ago. They have access to all the BofA retail info which touches about a quarter of all consumers.

      They said that the top 10% of earners’ spending is up 7% yoy while the bottom 90% have been retrenching.

      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        This jives with what I gleaned from a call with the CIO of Merrill about a week ago. They have access to all the BofA retail info which touches about a quarter of all consumers.

        They said that the top 10% of earners’ spending is up 7% yoy while the bottom 90% have been retrenching.

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        Horace
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        #920

        No reason to be cautious, with all those factory jobs coming. I'd be spending like a drunken sailor. Like a drunken sailor who was about to get a sweet factory job.

        Education is extremely important.

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          #921

          I’ll admit to being a little surprised. It’s not obvious why they should have been retrenching in Q1. The fear of tariff-related inflation and job losses is more of a future concern. You’d also expect higher income people to be more clued in on the risks than the common man.

          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            #922

            It's unprecedented! It's historical!

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/14/trump-tariffs-china-trade/

            Since the inauguration on Jan. 20, Trump administration officials have announced new or revised tariff policies more than 50 times, according to a tally by The Washington Post. (A separate tally by Reed Smith, a law firm, has found about 55 such actions.) Trump has issued more than a dozen tariff-related executive orders, or about one per week ..:

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I’ll admit to being a little surprised. It’s not obvious why they should have been retrenching in Q1. The fear of tariff-related inflation and job losses is more of a future concern. You’d also expect higher income people to be more clued in on the risks than the common man.

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              @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

              I’ll admit to being a little surprised. It’s not obvious why they should have been retrenching in Q1. The fear of tariff-related inflation and job losses is more of a future concern. You’d also expect higher income people to be more clued in on the risks than the common man.

              Common men fear for the future and tighten belts right away; higher income people say let's buy more and stock up before tariffs get real?

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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
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                #924

                Sure, but that assumes the common man and the higher income folks both have similar intuitions that tariffs are going to harm them economically in the immediate future.

                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                  #925

                  Link to video

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #926

                    That’s a lot of emergencies.

                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #928

                        Corporate greed strikes again.

                        IMG_5176.jpeg

                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                          Yeah, cause margins don’t exist. Remember when the Republicans were yelling at Biden for blaming inflation on greedy Jewish grocers?

                          The Brad

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
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                            #930

                            You either die a tariff hawk, or live long enough to embrace greedflation.

                            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                              Axtremus
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                              Has Bernie responded?

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                #932

                                I’m sure he’ll be hypocritical too.

                                They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  Cliff Asness comments:

                                  I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

                                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                    Cliff Asness comments:

                                    I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                    Cliff Asness comments:

                                    I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

                                    Yep.

                                    At least Trump will make pro capitalism noises though.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                      Cliff Asness comments:

                                      I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

                                      Yep.

                                      At least Trump will make pro capitalism noises though.

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                      Cliff Asness comments:

                                      I may have mentioned this but we have two economically left-wing parties now that only differ in their preferred pronouns.

                                      Yep.

                                      At least Trump will make pro capitalism noises though.

                                      Perhaps along with also more ICE raids at Walmart locations?

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #936

                                        Maybe the phone isn’t really ringing off the hook.

                                        They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #937

                                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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