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  • J jon-nyc
    16 days ago

    So we’re apparently backing down to 30% tariffs on China and vice versa for 90 days to have time to make some kind of deal. Futures markets are happy.

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    taiwan_girl
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    @jon-nyc When all is finished it will be interesting to see a table of before tariffs vs after tariffs for various countries and see how much (if any) change there was.

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      Horace
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      And it will be interesting to see the "concessions" America gets. My guess is, almost nothing meaningful. Because I'm still not convinced that the rest of the world was "ripping us off" as we became the richest nation on earth.

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
        wrote 16 days ago last edited by
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        Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Copper
          wrote 16 days ago last edited by
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          Wow, what a great president.

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          • J jon-nyc
            16 days ago

            Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

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            Horace
            wrote 16 days ago last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

            Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

            I mean, concessions as compared to status quo before the world trade war was declared by Trump.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • T taiwan_girl
              16 days ago

              @jon-nyc When all is finished it will be interesting to see a table of before tariffs vs after tariffs for various countries and see how much (if any) change there was.

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              89th
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              @taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:

              @jon-nyc When all is finished it will be interesting to see a table of before tariffs vs after tariffs for various countries and see how much (if any) change there was.

              Also need to account for GDP and/or jobs lost, and cost increase to citizens, for what seems to be a completely pointless exercise in bullying.

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                16 days ago

                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

                I mean, concessions as compared to status quo before the world trade war was declared by Trump.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote 16 days ago last edited by
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                @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

                I mean, concessions as compared to status quo before the world trade war was declared by Trump.

                They are bragging that there were none and that they’re the only country being treated as an equal.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                  Horace
                  wrote 15 days ago last edited by
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                  Count John Stossel, boomer conservative, in with those who don't think the tariffs are a good idea. The set of people who like them remains limited to Trump and exactly two of his advisors.

                  Link to video

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    89th
                    wrote 15 days ago last edited by
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                    I've enjoyed Stossel's segments ever since his "give me a break" segments during 20/20 back in the 90's.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote 15 days ago last edited by
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                      I’ve been reading him at Reason for years.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        Copper
                        wrote 15 days ago last edited by Copper
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                        The importer doesn't like tariffs.

                        Wow.

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                          15 days ago

                          The importer doesn't like tariffs.

                          Wow.

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                          Horace
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                          @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                          The importer doesn't like tariffs.

                          Wow.

                          It's so typical that when you punch someone in the face, they'll just whine about how much it hurt. They have no idea how predictable and tedious that whining is. It happens almost every time someone gets punched in the face.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            15 days ago

                            The importer doesn't like tariffs.

                            Wow.

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote 15 days ago last edited by
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                            @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                            The importer doesn't like tariffs.

                            Wow.

                            Copper doesn't like it when people criticise President Trump.

                            Wow.

                            I was only joking

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                              15 days ago

                              @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                              The importer doesn't like tariffs.

                              Wow.

                              It's so typical that when you punch someone in the face, they'll just whine about how much it hurt. They have no idea how predictable and tedious that whining is. It happens almost every time someone gets punched in the face.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote 15 days ago last edited by Renauda
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                              @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                              @Copper said in Trumpenomics:

                              The importer doesn't like tariffs.

                              Wow.

                              It's so typical that when you punch someone in the face, they'll just whine about how much it hurt. They have no idea how predictable and tedious that whining is. It happens almost every time someone gets punched in the face.

                              Then just throw him an elbow to the head and keep your eye on the play. Works for me.

                              Elbows up!

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                                Copper
                                wrote 15 days ago last edited by Copper
                                #914

                                Better than Pete Rose, and still alive. (The rumor is that Mr. Trump got the ban lifted).

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote 15 days ago last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #915

                                  One out of four of those is actually true.

                                  Welcome home, Edan.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    Renauda
                                    wrote 15 days ago last edited by
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                                    Edan should be thanking Copper. Profusely thanking Copper.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote 15 days ago last edited by
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                                      And the Indians and Pakistanis that are suffering from radiation burns from the nuclear conflict they experienced should thank him too. VP Shillbilly and Copper. Both of them.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote 14 days ago last edited by
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                                        OMG HE STOPPED FENTANYL!

                                        HE WON THE WAR ON DRUGS.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote 14 days ago last edited by
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                                          This jives with what I gleaned from a call with the CIO of Merrill about a week ago. They have access to all the BofA retail info which touches about a quarter of all consumers.

                                          They said that the top 10% of earners’ spending is up 7% yoy while the bottom 90% have been retrenching.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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