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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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      If there were a case to be made that the tariffs would increase long term prosperity, even with some short term pain, so be it, but they never make any such case. They just make the claim. And almost every expert in the world makes the case about why they're wrong.

      Education is extremely important.

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        #892

        There have to be people in the administration who talk the "party line" and then go home and have a strong gargle with salt water to clear out their mouth. Not sure who these people are however.

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          Good news, chaps - we'll soon be able to afford to own British cars. Because if there's one thing I miss about blighty it's standing there in the pouring fucking rain trying to get the bloody thing to start.

          Trump reduces tarriff on British cars, steel and aluminium to 10%

          You only get a 'u' with aluminium

          I was only joking

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            #894

            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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            • HoraceH Offline
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              Sounds about right.

              Education is extremely important.

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                For my view, I think that we could find alternatives for the rare earth minerals, etc.

                For me, the more concern is that China is moving in to our traditional allies. The US has lost some of its trusted status, which is a bigger long term problem.

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                  They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                    #898

                    h/t WTG

                    People started sharing receipts for tariffs charged to them:

                    https://www.buzzfeed.com/meganeliscomb/trump-tariff-receipts-may-2025

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                      So we’re apparently backing down to 30% tariffs on China and vice versa for 90 days to have time to make some kind of deal. Futures markets are happy.

                      They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        So we’re apparently backing down to 30% tariffs on China and vice versa for 90 days to have time to make some kind of deal. Futures markets are happy.

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                        @jon-nyc When all is finished it will be interesting to see a table of before tariffs vs after tariffs for various countries and see how much (if any) change there was.

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                          And it will be interesting to see the "concessions" America gets. My guess is, almost nothing meaningful. Because I'm still not convinced that the rest of the world was "ripping us off" as we became the richest nation on earth.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

                            They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                              Wow, what a great president.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

                                I mean, concessions as compared to status quo before the world trade war was declared by Trump.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                  @jon-nyc When all is finished it will be interesting to see a table of before tariffs vs after tariffs for various countries and see how much (if any) change there was.

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                                  @taiwan_girl said in Trumpenomics:

                                  @jon-nyc When all is finished it will be interesting to see a table of before tariffs vs after tariffs for various countries and see how much (if any) change there was.

                                  Also need to account for GDP and/or jobs lost, and cost increase to citizens, for what seems to be a completely pointless exercise in bullying.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                    Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

                                    I mean, concessions as compared to status quo before the world trade war was declared by Trump.

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                                    @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                    Well they backed their reciprocal tariff down from 125% to 30% also. Not clear whether they’ve backed off the rare earths moratorium. I haven’t heard about it so I’m guessing not.

                                    I mean, concessions as compared to status quo before the world trade war was declared by Trump.

                                    They are bragging that there were none and that they’re the only country being treated as an equal.

                                    They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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                                      Count John Stossel, boomer conservative, in with those who don't think the tariffs are a good idea. The set of people who like them remains limited to Trump and exactly two of his advisors.

                                      Link to video

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        I've enjoyed Stossel's segments ever since his "give me a break" segments during 20/20 back in the 90's.

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                                          I’ve been reading him at Reason for years.

                                          They’ll end up, after a lot of drama, with the same formula they use every time they have a trifecta: take away health care and food assistance from low income families and use the money to fund tax cuts for their donors.

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