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  • J jon-nyc
    22 Apr 2025, 09:23

    The entire Covid Crash of 2020 lasted 1 month and 3 days and wiped $7 Trillion from the US Market.

    $6.5 Trillion was wiped from the market this year in April over 2 days alone.

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 10:15 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

    The entire Covid Crash of 2020 lasted 1 month and 3 days and wiped $7 Trillion from the US Market.

    $6.5 Trillion was wiped from the market this year in April over 2 days alone.

    Not to sound like a crazy mf, but what are the odds that this is a deliberate ploy to enable Trump's family and friends to make a gargantuan amount of money by buying a ton of stocks just before he reverses the policy? The whole tariffs thing could be a decades long plan to make billions.

    I was only joking

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 10:18 last edited by
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      I don’t think that is the motivation but I have little doubt his family has been trading on his decisions.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 12:33 last edited by
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        DHL will now suspend consumer shipments ‘from any origin’ that are over $800 because of a tariff-induced backlog at U.S. customs, per FORTUNE

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 12:41 last edited by
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          FFS, we had a furniture guy screw up a lid on a Boesendorfer and had to ship it back to Vienna for repair. I wonder how this will affect the shipping back?

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 12:44 last edited by
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            The slowdown will make for a good opportunity to work on automating our ports.

            Oh, wait, that’s right…

            The Brad

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 17:01 last edited by
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              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 23:09 last edited by jon-nyc
                #787

                Walking back China tariffs now, partially anyway.

                Futures markets are happy.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • J jon-nyc
                  22 Apr 2025, 23:09

                  Walking back China tariffs now, partially anyway.

                  Futures markets are happy.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 23:19 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                  Walking back China tariffs now, partially anyway.

                  Futures markets are happy.

                  We received our tariff based price increases on our Cristofori (Pearl River) pianos this week. The net effect was 8-12% increase on our discounted price to the consumer. The verticals were 12, the grands around 8%.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 23 Apr 2025, 14:33 last edited by
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                    America First is seeking to create more balance in global economy, Bessent says

                    Apr. 23, 2025 10:21 AM ETBy: Liz Kiesche, SA News Editor

                    The architects of the Bretton Woods pact recognized that global growth required global coordination, U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said on Wednesday. "Yet everywhere we look, we see imbalance."

                    "America First does not mean America Alone," he said. "America First seeks to establish fairness in the economic balance."

                    The Trump administration is seeking to restore equilibrium in trade through its tariff policy and to restore inner order to the international system.

                    "Mission creep" has knocked the International Monetary Fund and World Bank "off course," he said in a speech to the Institute of International Finance.

                    More than 100 countries have approached the U.S. seeking to negotiate more balanced deals. "We're engaged in meaningful discussion and look forward to talking with others," he said.

                    The U.S. wants to help change the system, "because we want balance, too."

                    One unstainable aspect is the "persistent over-reliance on the United States for demand," he said.

                    The Treasury Secretary said the Trump administration wants to work with the IMF and the World Bank. Then he went on to list a number of items he says the IMF must do.

                    The IMF must be "a brutal truth-teller." Rather, he said the institution has been "whistling past the graveyard." The IMF has been "Pollyannish" and maintaining the status quo. IMF funding must be temporary, he noted.

                    The IMF must hold countries accountable for fiscal reform, and "sometimes, the IMF must say, "No,'" Bessent said.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 23 Apr 2025, 15:28 last edited by
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                      I have at least gotten an education on the importance of the American consumer to the global economy, through all of this.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        20 Apr 2025, 18:45

                        Just more evidence that there was so little to gain with these antics. If one wants to put a coherent frame on it, you'd just have to take seriously the notion of protectionism, higher prices, and more manufacturing jobs. Which is not a better America, but at least it's a comprehensible goal.

                        In practice, what will probably happen is that these shenanigans will show up in inflation and jobs numbers, Trump will declare victory over a bunch of nothing-burger concessions by countries that never treated America unfairly to begin with, and the fate of the whole exercise will be left up to China, who may or may not decide to rub America's nose in it, at significant cost to both countries in the short term, and maybe a benefit to China in the long term.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 00:08 last edited by jon-nyc
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                        @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                        … and the fate of the whole exercise will be left up to China, who may or may not decide to rub America's nose in it, at significant cost to both countries in the short term, and maybe a benefit to China in the long term.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 11:07 last edited by
                          #792

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 12:12 last edited by
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                            Finally.....

                            Link to video

                            I was only joking

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 12:54 last edited by
                              #794

                              Japan said today they won’t take part in a trade pact that requires them to exclude China.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                Horace
                                wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 13:41 last edited by Horace
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                                It's hard to imagine the rest of the world cooperating with Trump in any of his zany economic schemes that he may walk away from next week. Imagine making a permanent enemy of China, over a promise from Trump.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 13:43 last edited by
                                  #796

                                  @Doctor-Phibes That wasn’t even funny though.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 14:06 last edited by
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                                    China’s government is projecting confidence that it can outlast the U.S. in a protracted trade war in large part because of the potential damage inflicted by its restrictions on rare earth metals, said Eswar Prasad, a Cornell University economist who has spoken this week with Chinese finance officials.
                                    “That is the choke point,” Prasad said. “Beijing does not feel like it is going to back down and that the U.S. is in no position to dictate terms. A big, big part of that is rare earths, where they feel they have the capacity to do significant harm to American manufacturers.”

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      89th
                                      wrote on 24 Apr 2025, 14:43 last edited by
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                                      Every time I see Nutlick behind the President it reminds me of a weak 2nd grader hiding behind the fat 3rd grade bully and laughing at all of his playground jokes.

                                      https://www.reddit.com/r/thescoop/comments/1k6ry94/howard_lutnick_all_those_factories_that_youre/

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                                        kluurs
                                        wrote on 25 Apr 2025, 00:02 last edited by
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                                        China needs nada from us - and we only represent 12% of their exports - which they can absorb. Meanwhile, they've made and will continue to make alliances as a result of the US posture. Overall, one wonders if China won't get tired of all the winning.

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 26 Apr 2025, 14:01 last edited by
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                                          More Shapiro being shocked at how dumb this all was

                                          Link to video

                                          Education is extremely important.

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