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  • HoraceH Offline
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    #770

    I'm going to save upwards of $20 this year on eggs, compared to Biden's prices. No word on how much my retirement has been drained in the time it took to write this post.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Also, nobody who isn't a billionaire will be able to afford gender reassignment surgery, so that's another problem solved.

      I was only joking

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      • X xenon

        Doubly frustrating considering that the world economy was headed in the right direction. World stock markets were trending up, and the US usually beats them.

        So, we're down when we should have been up.

        Even more frustrating - it'll take months for this to really percolate through to "Main Street", at which point it might take even more months to unwind it.

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        @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

        Doubly frustrating considering that the world economy was headed in the right direction. World stock markets were trending up, and the US usually beats them.

        So, we're down when we should have been up.

        Even more frustrating - it'll take months for this to really percolate through to "Main Street", at which point it might take even more months to unwind it.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          All that Trump gaslighting about how badly America has been treated is really paying off.

          I was only joking

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            With the market's gradual acceptance that shit is getting real and Trump really does plan to torpedo the glorious normal that used to be, gold has finally decoupled from the stock market. Used to be that this alleged hedge, just moved more or less in line with the market. But now it's not just a fun asset, it's an actual hedge against catastrophe, and it's moving up with the market moving down.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              With the market's gradual acceptance that shit is getting real and Trump really does plan to torpedo the glorious normal that used to be, gold has finally decoupled from the stock market. Used to be that this alleged hedge, just moved more or less in line with the market. But now it's not just a fun asset, it's an actual hedge against catastrophe, and it's moving up with the market moving down.

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

              With the market's gradual acceptance that shit is getting real and Trump really does plan to torpedo the glorious normal that used to be, gold has finally decoupled from the stock market. Used to be that this alleged hedge, just moved more or less in line with the market. But now it's not just a fun asset, it's an actual hedge against catastrophe, and it's moving up with the market moving down.

              I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere about shit getting real and golden toilets.

              I was only joking

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                The DOW has dropped 1000 points 11 times in history.

                4 of those have been since “Liberation Day”

                Granted 1000 pt drop today is way different from 1000pt drop 20 years ago, but still.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • HoraceH Horace

                  Always Sunny in Philadephia, TV show. I bought the first few seasons. It's very funny.

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                  @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

                  Always Sunny in Philadephia, TV show. I bought the first few seasons. It's very funny.

                  Yeah it's a really great show. Unlike anything else on TV and it's actually the longest running live-action sitcom in TV history (since 2005).

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    The DOW has dropped 1000 points 11 times in history.

                    4 of those have been since “Liberation Day”

                    Granted 1000 pt drop today is way different from 1000pt drop 20 years ago, but still.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                    The DOW has dropped 1000 points 11 times in history.

                    4 of those have been since “Liberation Day”

                    Granted 1000 pt drop today is way different from 1000pt drop 20 years ago, but still.

                    Yeah the "points!" headlines never make sense to me. It's all percentages, baby.

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                      The entire Covid Crash of 2020 lasted 1 month and 3 days and wiped $7 Trillion from the US Market.

                      $6.5 Trillion was wiped from the market this year in April over 2 days alone.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Front page of WSJ.

                        IMG_4652.jpeg

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          The entire Covid Crash of 2020 lasted 1 month and 3 days and wiped $7 Trillion from the US Market.

                          $6.5 Trillion was wiped from the market this year in April over 2 days alone.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                          The entire Covid Crash of 2020 lasted 1 month and 3 days and wiped $7 Trillion from the US Market.

                          $6.5 Trillion was wiped from the market this year in April over 2 days alone.

                          Not to sound like a crazy mf, but what are the odds that this is a deliberate ploy to enable Trump's family and friends to make a gargantuan amount of money by buying a ton of stocks just before he reverses the policy? The whole tariffs thing could be a decades long plan to make billions.

                          I was only joking

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                            I don’t think that is the motivation but I have little doubt his family has been trading on his decisions.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              DHL will now suspend consumer shipments ‘from any origin’ that are over $800 because of a tariff-induced backlog at U.S. customs, per FORTUNE

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                FFS, we had a furniture guy screw up a lid on a Boesendorfer and had to ship it back to Vienna for repair. I wonder how this will affect the shipping back?

                                The Brad

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                                  The slowdown will make for a good opportunity to work on automating our ports.

                                  Oh, wait, that’s right…

                                  The Brad

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      Walking back China tariffs now, partially anyway.

                                      Futures markets are happy.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Walking back China tariffs now, partially anyway.

                                        Futures markets are happy.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                        Walking back China tariffs now, partially anyway.

                                        Futures markets are happy.

                                        We received our tariff based price increases on our Cristofori (Pearl River) pianos this week. The net effect was 8-12% increase on our discounted price to the consumer. The verticals were 12, the grands around 8%.

                                        The Brad

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                                          America First is seeking to create more balance in global economy, Bessent says

                                          Apr. 23, 2025 10:21 AM ETBy: Liz Kiesche, SA News Editor

                                          The architects of the Bretton Woods pact recognized that global growth required global coordination, U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said on Wednesday. "Yet everywhere we look, we see imbalance."

                                          "America First does not mean America Alone," he said. "America First seeks to establish fairness in the economic balance."

                                          The Trump administration is seeking to restore equilibrium in trade through its tariff policy and to restore inner order to the international system.

                                          "Mission creep" has knocked the International Monetary Fund and World Bank "off course," he said in a speech to the Institute of International Finance.

                                          More than 100 countries have approached the U.S. seeking to negotiate more balanced deals. "We're engaged in meaningful discussion and look forward to talking with others," he said.

                                          The U.S. wants to help change the system, "because we want balance, too."

                                          One unstainable aspect is the "persistent over-reliance on the United States for demand," he said.

                                          The Treasury Secretary said the Trump administration wants to work with the IMF and the World Bank. Then he went on to list a number of items he says the IMF must do.

                                          The IMF must be "a brutal truth-teller." Rather, he said the institution has been "whistling past the graveyard." The IMF has been "Pollyannish" and maintaining the status quo. IMF funding must be temporary, he noted.

                                          The IMF must hold countries accountable for fiscal reform, and "sometimes, the IMF must say, "No,'" Bessent said.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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