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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    #613

    Trump undoes Liberation Day, and the market rejoices.

    The market hates Liberation.

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    • AxtremusA Offline
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      Axtremus
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      #614

      Suppose you're a businessman, what would you do with this "90 day pause"? Import more before high tariffs kick in again?

      As a consumer, what would you do? Accelerate buying imported stuff that you planned to purchase anyway before the tariffs situation changes again?

      Anybody thinks "let's move more manufacturing back onshore before the high tariffs kick in again"?

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        As posted by Trump on Truth Social on April 4, 2025:

        TO THE MANY INVESTORS COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES AND INVESTING MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF MONEY, MY POLICIES WILL NEVER CHANGE, ...

        https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114279756371714617

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          #616

          And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

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            #617

            @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

            And with 25% on aluminum, steel, and autos.

            I was thinking along these lines. Glad someone quantified it. The escalating trade war with china, remains a big deal.

            Education is extremely important.

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              jon-nyc
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              #618

              Some more precision. Doesn’t look like it’s higher overall but consumer goods are.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #619

                Yes, but China’s a hit more people are willing to take…

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  #620

                  I think the boat fees are actually as big as the tariffs…

                  The Brad

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                    AndyD
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                    #621

                    How are the farmers
                    of America taking this?
                    Are they more likely to plant crops or sell their machines?

                    E.g. China has been stockpiling soybeans, and Brazil is an alternative supplier. Chinese import tax on US soybeans is now 104% ?

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #622

                      We have 9T of debt that matures in 2025, all of which we need to reissue and of course Trump will issue several trillion more.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                        Maybe this time Trump will say "China will pay for it."

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • LuFins DadL Offline
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                            #625

                            Good lord. The comments…

                            The Brad

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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
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                              #626

                              I'm unsurprised that economic destruction is no big deal to people with nothing economic to lose.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
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                                #627

                                If this was 4D chess to get interest rates down for debt refinancing, I think the fat man got mated in 6 moves.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  Dollar index against a currency basket.

                                  IMG_4091.jpeg

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    From UBS:

                                    Treasury Secretary Bessent said that they saw nothing unusual in yesterday’s market moves.

                                    The 30yr treasury experienced the biggest increase since 1982, equities are falling, the dollar is falling, and gold hit an all time high.

                                    Economists might consider this pattern not entirely usual.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      I think of Larry every time I hear about the gold price. 🙂

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                                        #631

                                        Op-ed praising Trump's genius tariff moves, comparing Trump to Tuft, McKinley, Ford, Reagan:

                                        https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2025/04/10/trump-tariffs-pause-stock-market-manipulation/83019881007/

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                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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