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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #380

    It’s not a trade deficit. They exchanged goods for dollars. It’s an equal and satisfactory exchange.

    The Brad

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    • HoraceH Horace

      I would expect a prosperous nation of consumers to have huge trade deficits with less prosperous nations.

      I wish I knew how trade deficits got confused with tariff differences. But it's not confusion, it's just opportunistic false messaging.

      LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #381

      @Horace said in Trumpenomics:

      I would expect a prosperous nation of consumers to have huge trade deficits with less prosperous nations.

      I wish I knew how trade deficits got confused with tariff differences. But it's not confusion, it's just opportunistic false messaging.

      “Trade Barriers” = lower wages is equivalent to a tariff.

      The Brad

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #382

        Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

        Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

        Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

        Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

        I dunno.

        But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

          Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

          Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

          Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

          I dunno.

          But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #383

          @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

          But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

          "Interesting" got here a while ago.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

            Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

            Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

            Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

            I dunno.

            But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #384

            @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

            Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

            Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

            Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

            Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

            I dunno.

            But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

            That makes 0 sense in regards to the actions being taken. You realize that S Korea and fucking Japan have just agreed to act in concert with China in response? He is strengthening China.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

              Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

              Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

              Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

              Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

              I dunno.

              But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

              That makes 0 sense in regards to the actions being taken. You realize that S Korea and fucking Japan have just agreed to act in concert with China in response? He is strengthening China.

              HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #385

              @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

              @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

              Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

              Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

              Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

              Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

              I dunno.

              But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

              That makes 0 sense in regards to the actions being taken. You realize that S Korea and fucking Japan have just agreed to act in concert with China in response? He is strengthening China.

              As Shapiro notes, other nations have to cooperate for any of this to play to America's advantage. China has a lot more staying power through pain, with its permanent government. They won't cooperate. They'll just wait.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #386

                I still do think there’s a bit off a show going on. While I don’t expect politicians to be as smart as most of us on the forum, I do expect them to at least be smarter than Ax… And this is idiotic by even his standards.

                The Brad

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                  #387

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                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #388

                    This would make a great rollercoaster design,..
                    IMG_3943.png

                    The Brad

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins DadL Offline
                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #389

                      But speaking as a father of a 5 year old, still better than the alternative.

                      The Brad

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

                        Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

                        Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

                        Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

                        I dunno.

                        But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #390

                        @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                        Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

                        Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

                        Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

                        Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

                        I dunno.

                        But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

                        a400a6ca-c145-4c1e-ba04-1c76cb625852-image.png

                        I was only joking

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                        • X Offline
                          X Offline
                          xenon
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #391

                          Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.

                          Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.

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                          • X xenon

                            Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.

                            Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.

                            Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #392

                            The 5D chess player has misplaced his anal beads.

                            I was only joking

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                            • X xenon

                              Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.

                              Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.

                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins DadL Offline
                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #393

                              @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

                              Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.

                              Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.

                              Even Ted Cruz is showing some discontent.

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL Offline
                                LuFins DadL Offline
                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #394

                                https://www.texastribune.org/2025/04/04/texas-ted-cruz-trump-tariffs-trade-war/

                                The Brad

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                                  @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                                  Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

                                  Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

                                  Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

                                  Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

                                  I dunno.

                                  But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

                                  That makes 0 sense in regards to the actions being taken. You realize that S Korea and fucking Japan have just agreed to act in concert with China in response? He is strengthening China.

                                  As Shapiro notes, other nations have to cooperate for any of this to play to America's advantage. China has a lot more staying power through pain, with its permanent government. They won't cooperate. They'll just wait.

                                  RenaudaR Offline
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                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #395

                                  @Horace

                                  China has a lot more staying power through pain, with its permanent government. They won't cooperate. They'll just wait.

                                  Very good point. If Americans are bewildered at the amount of pain Russians can endure, they will be amazed at what the Chinese can take. Even Stalin couldn’t top Mao (or, to a lesser extent, his successors) for inflicting pain and declaring war on his own country.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • kluursK Offline
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                                    kluurs
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #396

                                    I was watching a video on China's reaction to restrictions by the US on importing technology. The Chinese built a factory the size of 40 football fields in less time than it would take to get a zoning permit to build a popcorn stand in the US.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

                                      Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

                                      Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

                                      Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

                                      I dunno.

                                      But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #397

                                      @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                                      ... but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

                                      Not patriotic when you let personal grudge harm the country's greater good.

                                      I dunno.

                                      Oh ... I am not surprised.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                                        Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

                                        Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

                                        Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

                                        Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

                                        I dunno.

                                        But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

                                        a400a6ca-c145-4c1e-ba04-1c76cb625852-image.png

                                        RenaudaR Offline
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                                        Renauda
                                        wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                        #398

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Trumpenomics:

                                        @Jolly said in Trumpenomics:

                                        Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.

                                        Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.

                                        Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.

                                        Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.

                                        I dunno.

                                        But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...

                                        a400a6ca-c145-4c1e-ba04-1c76cb625852-image.png

                                        No, just making up shit of no consequence other than a desperate attempt to distract and appear impotent important again.

                                        Elbows up!

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                                        • X xenon

                                          Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.

                                          Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.

                                          HoraceH Offline
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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #399

                                          @xenon said in Trumpenomics:

                                          Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.

                                          Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.

                                          I really think it's over for Maga even now. Like, done deal. They may not realize it yet. But this economic destruction won't be forgiven or go unnoticed by enough people, no matter what happens next. Trump was elected by 1% of the vote, one person in 100 deciding to vote Trump over Harris. 50% of the country has skin in the market, and circa 0% of them are hoping to work in a factory someday. I think it's safe for the GOP to call Trump out, but I know that'll have to gradually dawn on them. I expect the congresspeople's phones are hot since yesterday, hotter today and over the weekend, and as long as this insanity lasts.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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