Trumpenomics
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Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
I was only joking
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Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
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Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
The 5D chess player has misplaced his anal beads.
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Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
@xenon said in Trumpenomics:
Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
Even Ted Cruz is showing some discontent.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:
@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
That makes 0 sense in regards to the actions being taken. You realize that S Korea and fucking Japan have just agreed to act in concert with China in response? He is strengthening China.
As Shapiro notes, other nations have to cooperate for any of this to play to America's advantage. China has a lot more staying power through pain, with its permanent government. They won't cooperate. They'll just wait.
China has a lot more staying power through pain, with its permanent government. They won't cooperate. They'll just wait.
Very good point. If Americans are bewildered at the amount of pain Russians can endure, they will be amazed at what the Chinese can take. Even Stalin couldn’t top Mao (or, to a lesser extent, his successors) for inflicting pain and declaring war on his own country.
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Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
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@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
@Doctor-Phibes said in Trumpenomics:
@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
No, just making up shit of no consequence other than a desperate attempt to distract and appear
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Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
@xenon said in Trumpenomics:
Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
I really think it's over for Maga even now. Like, done deal. They may not realize it yet. But this economic destruction won't be forgiven or go unnoticed by enough people, no matter what happens next. Trump was elected by 1% of the vote, one person in 100 deciding to vote Trump over Harris. 50% of the country has skin in the market, and circa 0% of them are hoping to work in a factory someday. I think it's safe for the GOP to call Trump out, but I know that'll have to gradually dawn on them. I expect the congresspeople's phones are hot since yesterday, hotter today and over the weekend, and as long as this insanity lasts.
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@xenon said in Trumpenomics:
Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
I really think it's over for Maga even now. Like, done deal. They may not realize it yet. But this economic destruction won't be forgiven or go unnoticed by enough people, no matter what happens next. Trump was elected by 1% of the vote, one person in 100 deciding to vote Trump over Harris. 50% of the country has skin in the market, and circa 0% of them are hoping to work in a factory someday. I think it's safe for the GOP to call Trump out, but I know that'll have to gradually dawn on them. I expect the congresspeople's phones are hot since yesterday, hotter today and over the weekend, and as long as this insanity lasts.
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@Horace said in Trumpenomics:
... But this economic destruction won't be forgiven or go unnoticed by enough people, no matter what happens next.
Well, similar things were said with regards to the January 6 Capitol tourist event.
@Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:
@Horace said in Trumpenomics:
... But this economic destruction won't be forgiven or go unnoticed by enough people, no matter what happens next.
Well, similar things were said with regards to the January 6 Capitol tourist event.
Not by me. I would always have said that the price of eggs would be considered more important than J6. But the price of eggs won't be more important than material impacts to the retirements of 10s of millions of Americans. (Not to mention that inflation will get worse with these tariffs.)
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In other news, private sector jobs grew at a more rapid pace than anticipated. They outpaced government jobs for the second month in a row.
Also, the Senate passed the continuation of the Trump tax cuts.
Just sayin'...
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In other news, private sector jobs grew at a more rapid pace than anticipated. They outpaced government jobs for the second month in a row.
Also, the Senate passed the continuation of the Trump tax cuts.
Just sayin'...
@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
In other news, private sector jobs grew at a more rapid pace than anticipated. They outdated government jobs for the second month in a row.
Also, the Senate passed the continuation of the Trump tax cuts.
Just sayin'...
Clearly, your glass is always half full since Trump got elected. My question is, 'full of what?'.
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I'm just sitting back, enjoying the show.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I'm actually finding this quite surprising. I never thought Trump would actually follow through with all of his bullshit.
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The fact that the market plunged after he announced the tariffs, is proof that very few people thought he'd do this. If they thought he'd do this, it would have been priced in after he was elected. The idea that Trump cared about the stock market, was generally agreed upon.
If you start counting the market drop from the time it started becoming clear he was serious, after he took office, we're at a 20% drawdown on America's piggy bank. The 12% over the past two days has been a continuation of the slow realization of how serious he is about the tariffs. No telling where it stops, but permanent tariffs, at least until 2028, would surely cause more beatings, at least until morale improved. I'm worried about companies going out of business, and the job losses from that. You can't suffocate efficiency in highly tuned economic systems without suffocating a bunch of jobs out of existence. And the lead time to create new jobs will be significant, in that best case scenario where there's a point to this all.
Education is extremely important.
