Trumpenomics
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wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:23 last edited by
It’s not a trade deficit. They exchanged goods for dollars. It’s an equal and satisfactory exchange.
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I would expect a prosperous nation of consumers to have huge trade deficits with less prosperous nations.
I wish I knew how trade deficits got confused with tariff differences. But it's not confusion, it's just opportunistic false messaging.
wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:24 last edited by@Horace said in Trumpenomics:
I would expect a prosperous nation of consumers to have huge trade deficits with less prosperous nations.
I wish I knew how trade deficits got confused with tariff differences. But it's not confusion, it's just opportunistic false messaging.
“Trade Barriers” = lower wages is equivalent to a tariff.
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wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:24 last edited by
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
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Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:26 last edited by@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
"Interesting" got here a while ago.
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Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:26 last edited by@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
That makes 0 sense in regards to the actions being taken. You realize that S Korea and fucking Japan have just agreed to act in concert with China in response? He is strengthening China.
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@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
That makes 0 sense in regards to the actions being taken. You realize that S Korea and fucking Japan have just agreed to act in concert with China in response? He is strengthening China.
wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:28 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:
@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
That makes 0 sense in regards to the actions being taken. You realize that S Korea and fucking Japan have just agreed to act in concert with China in response? He is strengthening China.
As Shapiro notes, other nations have to cooperate for any of this to play to America's advantage. China has a lot more staying power through pain, with its permanent government. They won't cooperate. They'll just wait.
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wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:34 last edited by
I still do think there’s a bit off a show going on. While I don’t expect politicians to be as smart as most of us on the forum, I do expect them to at least be smarter than Ax… And this is idiotic by even his standards.
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wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:37 last edited by
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wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:41 last edited by
This would make a great rollercoaster design,..
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wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:45 last edited by
But speaking as a father of a 5 year old, still better than the alternative.
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Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:47 last edited by@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
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wrote on 4 Apr 2025, 23:52 last edited by
Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
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Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
wrote on 5 Apr 2025, 00:00 last edited byThe 5D chess player has misplaced his anal beads.
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Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
wrote on 5 Apr 2025, 00:02 last edited by@xenon said in Trumpenomics:
Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
Even Ted Cruz is showing some discontent.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:
@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
That makes 0 sense in regards to the actions being taken. You realize that S Korea and fucking Japan have just agreed to act in concert with China in response? He is strengthening China.
As Shapiro notes, other nations have to cooperate for any of this to play to America's advantage. China has a lot more staying power through pain, with its permanent government. They won't cooperate. They'll just wait.
wrote on 5 Apr 2025, 00:05 last edited by Renauda 4 May 2025, 01:20China has a lot more staying power through pain, with its permanent government. They won't cooperate. They'll just wait.
Very good point. If Americans are bewildered at the amount of pain Russians can endure, they will be amazed at what the Chinese can take. Even Stalin couldn’t top Mao (or, to a lesser extent, his successors) for inflicting pain and declaring war on his own country.
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wrote on 5 Apr 2025, 00:51 last edited by
I was watching a video on China's reaction to restrictions by the US on importing technology. The Chinese built a factory the size of 40 football fields in less time than it would take to get a zoning permit to build a popcorn stand in the US.
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Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
wrote on 5 Apr 2025, 00:53 last edited by@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
... but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Not patriotic when you let personal grudge harm the country's greater good.
I dunno.
Oh ... I am not surprised.
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@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
wrote on 5 Apr 2025, 01:05 last edited by Renauda 4 May 2025, 01:33@Doctor-Phibes said in Trumpenomics:
@Jolly said in Trumpenomics:
Y'all may not believe it, but Donald J. Trump is a master at holding a grudge.
Word is, his State Department (and Trump) were pissed during Trump's first term, because of China's reluctance to come anywhere near reciprocity on tariffs.
Maybe...There are countries we are willing to run trade deficits with. Countries we know are not going to buy much from us.
Maybe Trump is willing to let countries run a trade surplus against us, if we have low, reciprocal tariffs. Maybe we try to cut China out in favor of Vietnam or India.
I dunno.
But I think it's fixin' to get interesting...
No, just making up shit of no consequence other than a desperate attempt to distract and appear
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Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
wrote on 5 Apr 2025, 01:13 last edited by@xenon said in Trumpenomics:
Is it ok for the rest of the GOP to call Trump stupid yet? I hope we get there sooner than later.
Trump has the ability to remain retarded longer than we can remain solvent.
I really think it's over for Maga even now. Like, done deal. They may not realize it yet. But this economic destruction won't be forgiven or go unnoticed by enough people, no matter what happens next. Trump was elected by 1% of the vote, one person in 100 deciding to vote Trump over Harris. 50% of the country has skin in the market, and circa 0% of them are hoping to work in a factory someday. I think it's safe for the GOP to call Trump out, but I know that'll have to gradually dawn on them. I expect the congresspeople's phones are hot since yesterday, hotter today and over the weekend, and as long as this insanity lasts.
