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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
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    #1213

    All is not bad news.

    The March jobs report indicates that the U.S. economy added 178,000 jobs, with the unemployment rate decreasing to 4.3%. Job gains were primarily in healthcare, construction, and transportation sectors.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #1214

      Lowest Consumer Sentiment ever recorded.

      alt text

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        #1215

        47 heh

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          wrote last edited by
          #1216

          Trumps approval rating on the Economy has dropped 9 points since the beginning of the war.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Online
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            #1217

            How bad do his ratings have to be before he stops blaming losses on election fraud?

            Obviously, this is a rhetorical question.

            I was only joking

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              wrote last edited by jon-nyc
              #1218

              That’s just another way of saying ‘how gullible is his base’ and we don’t yet know the answer. We just know that no one has found the bottom yet.

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • HoraceH Offline
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                #1219

                From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                Education is extremely important.

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                  wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                  #1220

                  It’s not clear to me how much of that erosion has been from true believers vs lesser-evil voters or, in the pundit space, grifters. We have evidence for example that Tucker never believed Trump won the 2020 election (though that evidence comes from an unreliable source- Tucker himself).

                  The percentage of people who believe he won the 2020 election is very similar to the percentage rate that view him favorably on the economy and the Iran war. That’s probably more or less the same group of people.

                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    #1221

                    Yeah, it's probably erosion of clumps of sand on a hard MAGA granite rock. It's actually remarkable how many true believers have ditched him lately (e.g., Carlson), or perhaps he knows the Trump era is over in 2.5 years and it's time to start moving on. Unfortunately during the next election the Trump influence will likely still be there like an awkward coworker who doesn't leave your office after the conversation is clearly over.

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                      #1222

                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                        Doctor PhibesD Online
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote last edited by
                        #1223

                        @Horace said:

                        From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                        Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                        So who exactly was delusional?

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Horace said:

                          From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                          Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                          So who exactly was delusional?

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                          #1224

                          @Doctor-Phibes said:

                          @Horace said:

                          From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                          Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                          So who exactly was delusional?

                          You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • 89th8 89th

                            Yeah, it's probably erosion of clumps of sand on a hard MAGA granite rock. It's actually remarkable how many true believers have ditched him lately (e.g., Carlson), or perhaps he knows the Trump era is over in 2.5 years and it's time to start moving on. Unfortunately during the next election the Trump influence will likely still be there like an awkward coworker who doesn't leave your office after the conversation is clearly over.

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                            #1225

                            @89th said:

                            Yeah, it's probably erosion of clumps of sand on a hard MAGA granite rock. It's actually remarkable how many true believers have ditched him lately (e.g., Carlson), or perhaps he knows the Trump era is over in 2.5 years and it's time to start moving on. Unfortunately during the next election the Trump influence will likely still be there like an awkward coworker who doesn't leave your office after the conversation is clearly over.

                            Occam's razor is that you're witnessing people with actual beliefs and principles change allegiances due to a conflict with those beliefs and principles.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @Doctor-Phibes said:

                              @Horace said:

                              From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                              Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                              So who exactly was delusional?

                              You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

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                              wrote last edited by Renauda
                              #1226

                              @Horace said:

                              You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

                              I personally could care less about his goddamned campaign platform as it was unmitigated B. S. from its very inception.

                              This war he has started however is another matter given the global chaos it is creating for every economy in the world. Trump, like his close friend, Putin, is a covetous and malevolent sociopath.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                @Doctor-Phibes said:

                                @Horace said:

                                From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                                Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                                So who exactly was delusional?

                                You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

                                Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote last edited by
                                #1227

                                @Horace said:

                                You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

                                Him going to war with Iran is a symptom of who he is, not the cause of why I don't like him. The fact that he was primarily self-serving and an agent of chaos should have been obvious.

                                I was only joking

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                                  #1228

                                  Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                                    #1229

                                    Hasset being a little tone deaf. The general populace probably doesn’t interpret that message the same way his banker buddies do.

                                    Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #1230

                                      stock market is en fuego. But I suppose that doesn't mean much to those doing all that credit card spending. Except on the off chance they are contributing to a retirement plan.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                                        #1231

                                        I meet with Merrill (BofA) every quarter who, between credit cards and checking accounts, has a superb and early view of consumer behavior. One thing they’ve highlighted in recent meetings is that spending has been good but in large part it’s the top 10% of income earners picking up the slack for somewhat decreased purchasing power of the rest. Indeed that top 10% represent half of all consumer spending.

                                        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                          #1232

                                          It's good to be the top 10%!

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