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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote last edited by
    #1217

    How bad do his ratings have to be before he stops blaming losses on election fraud?

    Obviously, this is a rhetorical question.

    I was only joking

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
      wrote last edited by jon-nyc
      #1218

      That’s just another way of saying ‘how gullible is his base’ and we don’t yet know the answer. We just know that no one has found the bottom yet.

      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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      • HoraceH Offline
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        Horace
        wrote last edited by
        #1219

        From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

        Education is extremely important.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #1220

          It’s not clear to me how much of that erosion has been from true believers vs lesser-evil voters or, in the pundit space, grifters. We have evidence for example that Tucker never believed Trump won the 2020 election (though that evidence comes from an unreliable source- Tucker himself).

          The percentage of people who believe he won the 2020 election is very similar to the percentage rate that view him favorably on the economy and the Iran war. That’s probably more or less the same group of people.

          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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          • 89th8 Online
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            89th
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            #1221

            Yeah, it's probably erosion of clumps of sand on a hard MAGA granite rock. It's actually remarkable how many true believers have ditched him lately (e.g., Carlson), or perhaps he knows the Trump era is over in 2.5 years and it's time to start moving on. Unfortunately during the next election the Trump influence will likely still be there like an awkward coworker who doesn't leave your office after the conversation is clearly over.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nycJ Online
              jon-nyc
              wrote last edited by
              #1222

              Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #1223

                @Horace said:

                From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                So who exactly was delusional?

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Horace said:

                  From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                  Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                  So who exactly was delusional?

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  #1224

                  @Doctor-Phibes said:

                  @Horace said:

                  From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                  Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                  So who exactly was delusional?

                  You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Yeah, it's probably erosion of clumps of sand on a hard MAGA granite rock. It's actually remarkable how many true believers have ditched him lately (e.g., Carlson), or perhaps he knows the Trump era is over in 2.5 years and it's time to start moving on. Unfortunately during the next election the Trump influence will likely still be there like an awkward coworker who doesn't leave your office after the conversation is clearly over.

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote last edited by
                    #1225

                    @89th said:

                    Yeah, it's probably erosion of clumps of sand on a hard MAGA granite rock. It's actually remarkable how many true believers have ditched him lately (e.g., Carlson), or perhaps he knows the Trump era is over in 2.5 years and it's time to start moving on. Unfortunately during the next election the Trump influence will likely still be there like an awkward coworker who doesn't leave your office after the conversation is clearly over.

                    Occam's razor is that you're witnessing people with actual beliefs and principles change allegiances due to a conflict with those beliefs and principles.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @Doctor-Phibes said:

                      @Horace said:

                      From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                      Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                      So who exactly was delusional?

                      You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

                      RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
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                      #1226

                      @Horace said:

                      You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

                      I personally could care less about his goddamned campaign platform as it was unmitigated B. S. from its very inception.

                      This war he has started however is another matter given the global chaos it is creating for every economy in the world. Trump, like his close friend, Putin, is a covetous and malevolent sociopath.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @Doctor-Phibes said:

                        @Horace said:

                        From your perspective, you should at least acknowledge a gradual erosion of his "base" as the poll numbers drop and as his previous supporters abandon him over the Iran war. It's easy to point and laugh at how dumb the base is when you're redefining it daily as it gets whittled down to some combination of people who really do align with his decisions and those who simply agree with whatever he says. (The latter are not represented in any mainstream media I'm familiar with.)

                        Trump has always been a nightmare. It's reassuring that more people have finally figured this out, but let's not pretend these people weren't duped. I was told I was delusional for saying this, but he's the same guy now that he was then.

                        So who exactly was delusional?

                        You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

                        Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote last edited by
                        #1227

                        @Horace said:

                        You not liking him is not a prediction that he'd go to war with Iran. (I don't actually care much about the war personally, but I recognize it as a betrayal of his campaign platform.)

                        Him going to war with Iran is a symptom of who he is, not the cause of why I don't like him. The fact that he was primarily self-serving and an agent of chaos should have been obvious.

                        I was only joking

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
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                          #1228

                          Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                          • jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nycJ Online
                            jon-nyc
                            wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                            #1229

                            Hasset being a little tone deaf. The general populace probably doesn’t interpret that message the same way his banker buddies do.

                            Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
                              wrote last edited by
                              #1230

                              stock market is en fuego. But I suppose that doesn't mean much to those doing all that credit card spending. Except on the off chance they are contributing to a retirement plan.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                                #1231

                                I meet with Merrill (BofA) every quarter who, between credit cards and checking accounts, has a superb and early view of consumer behavior. One thing they’ve highlighted in recent meetings is that spending has been good but in large part it’s the top 10% of income earners picking up the slack for somewhat decreased purchasing power of the rest. Indeed that top 10% represent half of all consumer spending.

                                Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                • AxtremusA Away
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                                  Axtremus
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                                  It's good to be the top 10%!

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                                    The latest quarterly Trump economic report. Couple of things which you may notice.

                                    • I changed the source of some of the information, so that I get all of it from official US government sources. I went back and re-did the numbers so that they all came from US government.
                                    • I am not sure a "strict" change in % vs. the end of President Biden term tells the whole story. Probably better to graph out the numbers to see trends etc., but I was too lazy to do that. LOL

                                    Screenshot 2026-05-07 at 8.31.49 PM.png

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        Hey @andrea-b , is there any shame in ☝ ?

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                          I wonder if Rachel Wiggins is hot. WTTT?

                                          I was only joking

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