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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote last edited by jon-nyc
    #1053

    Another interesting thing about our growth is most of it is AI capex. The mag 7 are spending over a billion dollars a day on new data center infrastructure.

    That has exceeded consumer spending as a proportion of growth.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • 89th8 Offline
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      Indeed. I stumbled into investing in Palantir in Jan 2023. It’s up 2100% now so I just sold 1/3 of it. The bubble will burst one day, I think their PE ratio is like 650 or something.

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        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-02/trump-s-next-job-selling-skeptical-americans-on-his-economy

        USGDP2025.jpeg

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        • 89th8 89th

          Indeed. I stumbled into investing in Palantir in Jan 2023. It’s up 2100% now so I just sold 1/3 of it. The bubble will burst one day, I think their PE ratio is like 650 or something.

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          @89th said in Trumpenomics:

          Indeed. I stumbled into investing in Palantir in Jan 2023. It’s up 2100% now so I just sold 1/3 of it. The bubble will burst one day, I think their PE ratio is like 650 or something.

          Nice. Purchasing individual stocks is an inferior strategy to a well balanced mix of funds, except when it’s not.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            #1057

            He’s doubling down on the 1500% cut in drug prices.

            Someone asks Grok to explain:

            A 1500% cut means reducing by 15 times the original price, e.g., a $100 drug becomes -$1400—you'd get paid to take it. Yes, that's a lot, but impossible without negative prices. Likely a misstatement; Trump's actual drug price reductions were more modest, around 1-5% annually.

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              #1058

              While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

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                @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                Besides, just think about the alternative.
                Is it still better than the alternative?

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                  While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                  Besides, just think about the alternative.
                  Is it still better than the alternative?

                  LuFins DadL Offline
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                  @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                  While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                  Besides, just think about the alternative.
                  Is it still better than the alternative?

                  Absofuckinglutely.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                    While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                    Besides, just think about the alternative.
                    Is it still better than the alternative?

                    Absofuckinglutely.

                    Doctor PhibesD Online
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                    #1061

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                    @Axtremus said in Trumpenomics:

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Trumpenomics:

                    While I would expect one of the most prominent business people in the world, and in a business that is specifically tied into interest rates and percentages, I would expect better… But… When we are spending 1500% more on drugs than the Phillipines and 400% more than most European countries, I would expect that most of his voters get it…

                    Besides, just think about the alternative.
                    Is it still better than the alternative?

                    Absofuckinglutely.

                    I hate to be pernickity, but could you confirm that when you speak of "the alternative" you are referring to the election of President Kamala Harris, and not the earth being destroyed by a huge fucking meteor?

                    I was only joking

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      #1062

                      It’s always interesting to see how much these otherwise intelligent people are willing to debase themselves in front of their entire profession (and be complicit in harming the American economy) all in service to Donald Trump.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        75% of the new jobs were in healthcare. That seems odd. Maybe that’s just a normal month in an industry that is growing as a percentage of gdp.

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                        #1063

                        @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                        75% of the new jobs were in healthcare. That seems odd. Maybe that’s just a normal month in an industry that is growing as a percentage of gdp.

                        In fact if you take out healthcare and private education there was a net loss of 43k jobs.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                          75% of the new jobs were in healthcare. That seems odd. Maybe that’s just a normal month in an industry that is growing as a percentage of gdp.

                          In fact if you take out healthcare and private education there was a net loss of 43k jobs.

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                          @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                          @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                          75% of the new jobs were in healthcare. That seems odd. Maybe that’s just a normal month in an industry that is growing as a percentage of gdp.

                          In fact if you take out healthcare and private education there was a net loss of 43k jobs.

                          Compare and contrast if you took out new government jobs from 21-25…

                          The Brad

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                            wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                            #1065

                            ChatGPT says of the 16.1 Million jobs created during the Biden administration, 1.4MM were in the government sector.

                            Grok estimates 15.6MM total jobs, though it acknowledges (without prompting) that some sources have it at 16.1. Of its estimated 15.6 MM new jobs it puts 1.7MM as government jobs.

                            So that’s an average of between 290k and 304k non-governmental jobs per month added during the prior administration.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            • jon-nycJ Online
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                              jon-nyc
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                              #1066

                              But that’s sort of irrelevant.

                              I think what we’re seeing here is that most industries aren’t making expansion plans in the face of economic uncertainty. That economic uncertainty, perhaps uniquely in our economic history, has a single author who just fired the head of his labor statistics department.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                But that’s sort of irrelevant.

                                I think what we’re seeing here is that most industries aren’t making expansion plans in the face of economic uncertainty. That economic uncertainty, perhaps uniquely in our economic history, has a single author who just fired the head of his labor statistics department.

                                Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                #1067

                                @jon-nyc said in Trumpenomics:

                                a single author who just fired the head of his labor statistics department.

                                I wonder if he was actually fired for pointing out that a 1500% decrease in expense is something that only a moron would talk about.

                                I was only joking

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