Above the fold...

[George K]

@89th said in Above the fold...:

I don't read WaPo...or anything else that's interested in stirring up

Now there's an interesting comment.

[89th]

Hahaha TNCR notwithstanding bro

[Jolly]

@89th said in Above the fold...:

@Jolly said in Above the fold...:

89th's favorite newspaper...

LOL my family got the Washington Times as a kid. I don't read WaPo or RedState or anything else that's interested in stirring up their viewers so they can get clicks and sell ads.

Yet, you keep serving up WaPo stats like the Sermon On The Mount.

[Doctor Phibes]

I'm forced to read The Daily Mail very much against my will when my friends here insist on posting links to their appalling articles.

I feel that this is essentially an abusive relationship.

[89th]

@Jolly said in Above the fold...:

@89th said in Above the fold...:

@Jolly said in Above the fold...:

89th's favorite newspaper...

LOL my family got the Washington Times as a kid. I don't read WaPo or RedState or anything else that's interested in stirring up their viewers so they can get clicks and sell ads.

Yet, you keep serving up WaPo stats like the Sermon On The Mount.

Not sure why this is so hard to grasp. You asked where did the 30,573 lies stat come from? I provided you with a CSV file with each single one, fully analyzed and auditable. You discounted the whole list because the person who put it together works for WaPo, as if that discredits the facts in the spreadsheet. If RedState authors did the exact same work and provided the exact same spreadsheet, would you believe it then?

[Jolly]

@89th said in Above the fold...:

@Jolly said in Above the fold...:

@89th said in Above the fold...:

@Jolly said in Above the fold...:

89th's favorite newspaper...

LOL my family got the Washington Times as a kid. I don't read WaPo or RedState or anything else that's interested in stirring up their viewers so they can get clicks and sell ads.

Yet, you keep serving up WaPo stats like the Sermon On The Mount.

Not sure why this is so hard to grasp. You asked where did the 30,573 lies stat come from? I provided you with a CSV file with each single one, fully analyzed and auditable. You discounted the whole list because the person who put it together works for WaPo, as if that discredits the facts in the spreadsheet. If RedState authors did the exact same work and provided the exact same spreadsheet, would you believe it then?

The facts are sailing five feet over your head.

[LuFins Dad]

I would have to go back and confirm, and frankly I don’t have the time or inclination to do so, but I seem to remember that the WaPo lie list went something like this: Trump - “There were 100,000 people at my inauguration”

WaPo - “We estimate 85,000, that’s a lie”

Trump - “No, it was!”

WaPo - “That’s 2 lies”

Trump proceeds to make the claim at 5 rallies and 4 interviews…

WaPo - “That’s 11 lies!”

[Horace]

Meanwhile, a major ingredient in Trump's political secret sauce, is the fact that he comes off as genuine, if often obviously hyperbolic.

[Jolly]

@Horace said in Above the fold...:

Meanwhile, a major ingredient in Trump's political secret sauce, is the fact that he comes off as genuine, if often obviously hyperbolic.

Agreed.

[89th]

@LuFins-Dad said in Above the fold...:

I would have to go back and confirm, and frankly I don’t have the time or inclination to do so, but I seem to remember that the WaPo lie list went something like this: Trump - “There were 100,000 people at my inauguration”

WaPo - “We estimate 85,000, that’s a lie”

Trump - “No, it was!”

WaPo - “That’s 2 lies”

Trump proceeds to make the claim at 5 rallies and 4 interviews…

WaPo - “That’s 11 lies!”

Actually from what I can tell they only counted one general lie per event once. They went out of their way NOT to double count, such as in the same speech. It’s all in the CSV file. It’s as clear and auditable as you can ask for. I’ve done a spot check and it all is accurate in terms of single-counting false statements from Trump.

[Jolly]

Wish we still had the beating a dead horse emoticon.

[89th]

I’m responding to doubts about the data with facts. I know, facts.

That was a good emoticon though!

[Jolly]

@89th said in Above the fold...:

I’m responding to doubts about the data with facts. I know, facts.

That was a good emoticon though!

No, you're pushing a narrative with suspect facts from a biased source and trying to pass it off as gospel.

[89th]

It’s a complete open list. And we all know Trump lies, that’s not even the debate. It’s how much he does… You are welcome to find faults with any of the 30,573 rows. Its actually as clear as it can get, but I can see even that doesn’t help!

[LuFins Dad]

Link it again, please.

[Jolly]

@89th said in Above the fold...:

It’s a complete open list. And we all know Trump lies, that’s not even the debate. It’s how much he does… You are welcome to find faults with any of the 30,573 rows. Its actually as clear as it can get, but I can see even that doesn’t help!

Even a cursory glance shows 227 lies by the fact-checkers at WaPo (none of whom work there anymore). So you expect somebody to wade through >30,000 cites, some of which are blatantly dishonest, and many of which are redundant? A list that contains approximately 18 purported lies per day?

Son, I realize you have strong faith, faith being belief in that which cannot be seen, but I ain't buying your line of BS.

[taiwan_girl]

@89th Please randomly pick lies #415 - 420 from the list

@Jolly please give your opinion on weather those are accurate or not, and why.

Thanks!

[Jolly]

No.

[Horace]

One does not simply refuse an assignment from TG.

[Jolly]

One just did.

It's not worth my time.