Above the fold...
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@Jolly said in Above the fold...:
89th's favorite newspaper...
LOL my family got the Washington Times as a kid. I don't read WaPo or RedState or anything else that's interested in stirring up their viewers so they can get clicks and sell ads.
@89th said in Above the fold...:
@Jolly said in Above the fold...:
89th's favorite newspaper...
LOL my family got the Washington Times as a kid. I don't read WaPo or RedState or anything else that's interested in stirring up their viewers so they can get clicks and sell ads.
Yet, you keep serving up WaPo stats like the Sermon On The Mount.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I'm forced to read The Daily Mail very much against my will when my friends here insist on posting links to their appalling articles.
I feel that this is essentially an abusive relationship.
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@89th said in Above the fold...:
@Jolly said in Above the fold...:
89th's favorite newspaper...
LOL my family got the Washington Times as a kid. I don't read WaPo or RedState or anything else that's interested in stirring up their viewers so they can get clicks and sell ads.
Yet, you keep serving up WaPo stats like the Sermon On The Mount.
@Jolly said in Above the fold...:
@89th said in Above the fold...:
@Jolly said in Above the fold...:
89th's favorite newspaper...
LOL my family got the Washington Times as a kid. I don't read WaPo or RedState or anything else that's interested in stirring up their viewers so they can get clicks and sell ads.
Yet, you keep serving up WaPo stats like the Sermon On The Mount.
Not sure why this is so hard to grasp. You asked where did the 30,573 lies stat come from? I provided you with a CSV file with each single one, fully analyzed and auditable. You discounted the whole list because the person who put it together works for WaPo, as if that discredits the facts in the spreadsheet. If RedState authors did the exact same work and provided the exact same spreadsheet, would you believe it then?
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@Jolly said in Above the fold...:
@89th said in Above the fold...:
@Jolly said in Above the fold...:
89th's favorite newspaper...
LOL my family got the Washington Times as a kid. I don't read WaPo or RedState or anything else that's interested in stirring up their viewers so they can get clicks and sell ads.
Yet, you keep serving up WaPo stats like the Sermon On The Mount.
Not sure why this is so hard to grasp. You asked where did the 30,573 lies stat come from? I provided you with a CSV file with each single one, fully analyzed and auditable. You discounted the whole list because the person who put it together works for WaPo, as if that discredits the facts in the spreadsheet. If RedState authors did the exact same work and provided the exact same spreadsheet, would you believe it then?
@89th said in Above the fold...:
@Jolly said in Above the fold...:
@89th said in Above the fold...:
@Jolly said in Above the fold...:
89th's favorite newspaper...
LOL my family got the Washington Times as a kid. I don't read WaPo or RedState or anything else that's interested in stirring up their viewers so they can get clicks and sell ads.
Yet, you keep serving up WaPo stats like the Sermon On The Mount.
Not sure why this is so hard to grasp. You asked where did the 30,573 lies stat come from? I provided you with a CSV file with each single one, fully analyzed and auditable. You discounted the whole list because the person who put it together works for WaPo, as if that discredits the facts in the spreadsheet. If RedState authors did the exact same work and provided the exact same spreadsheet, would you believe it then?
The facts are sailing five feet over your head.
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I would have to go back and confirm, and frankly I don’t have the time or inclination to do so, but I seem to remember that the WaPo lie list went something like this: Trump - “There were 100,000 people at my inauguration”
WaPo - “We estimate 85,000, that’s a lie”
Trump - “No, it was!”
WaPo - “That’s 2 lies”
Trump proceeds to make the claim at 5 rallies and 4 interviews…
WaPo - “That’s 11 lies!”
The Brad
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Meanwhile, a major ingredient in Trump's political secret sauce, is the fact that he comes off as genuine, if often obviously hyperbolic.
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I would have to go back and confirm, and frankly I don’t have the time or inclination to do so, but I seem to remember that the WaPo lie list went something like this: Trump - “There were 100,000 people at my inauguration”
WaPo - “We estimate 85,000, that’s a lie”
Trump - “No, it was!”
WaPo - “That’s 2 lies”
Trump proceeds to make the claim at 5 rallies and 4 interviews…
WaPo - “That’s 11 lies!”
@LuFins-Dad said in Above the fold...:
I would have to go back and confirm, and frankly I don’t have the time or inclination to do so, but I seem to remember that the WaPo lie list went something like this: Trump - “There were 100,000 people at my inauguration”
WaPo - “We estimate 85,000, that’s a lie”
Trump - “No, it was!”
WaPo - “That’s 2 lies”
Trump proceeds to make the claim at 5 rallies and 4 interviews…
WaPo - “That’s 11 lies!”
Actually from what I can tell they only counted one general lie per event once. They went out of their way NOT to double count, such as in the same speech. It’s all in the CSV file. It’s as clear and auditable as you can ask for. I’ve done a spot check and it all is accurate in terms of single-counting false statements from Trump.
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I’m responding to doubts about the data with facts. I know, facts.
That was a good emoticon though!
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Link it again, please.
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It’s a complete open list. And we all know Trump lies, that’s not even the debate. It’s how much he does… You are welcome to find faults with any of the 30,573 rows. Its actually as clear as it can get, but I can see even that doesn’t help!
@89th said in Above the fold...:
It’s a complete open list. And we all know Trump lies, that’s not even the debate. It’s how much he does… You are welcome to find faults with any of the 30,573 rows. Its actually as clear as it can get, but I can see even that doesn’t help!
Even a cursory glance shows 227 lies by the fact-checkers at WaPo (none of whom work there anymore). So you expect somebody to wade through >30,000 cites, some of which are blatantly dishonest, and many of which are redundant? A list that contains approximately 18 purported lies per day?
Son, I realize you have strong faith, faith being belief in that which cannot be seen, but I ain't buying your line of BS.
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@taiwan_girl said in Above the fold...:
@Jolly please give your opinion on weather those are accurate or not, and why.
There is a storm brewing there.
