Actions Have Consequences
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No the folks I listed above publicly came out in support of Milley's assessment of Trump. Whether they would've done the same thing, who knows, but they all agreed Milley's reasoning was not flawed. I fully expect the investigation to publish results, whether they support Trump's view or not. (LOL)
@89th said in Actions Have Consequences:
No the folks I listed above publicly came out in support of Milley's assessment of Trump. Whether they would've done the same thing, who knows, but they all agreed Milley's reasoning was not flawed. I fully expect the investigation to publish results, whether they support Trump's view or not. (LOL)
Do you have a cite for that?
Education is extremely important.
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Here's the best cite of "support for Milley's actions" I could find. Spoiler: Biden, the spokesperson for Biden, and John Bolton came out in specific support for his actions.
Note that Bolton failed to seek security clearance for his book before publishing it, and it is known to contain sensitive information that would have been censored, if he'd gone through the appropriate channels. I do not consider him to be of impeccable integrity in anything related to Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/politics/milley-woodward-china-trump/index.html
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@89th said in Actions Have Consequences:
No the folks I listed above publicly came out in support of Milley's assessment of Trump. Whether they would've done the same thing, who knows, but they all agreed Milley's reasoning was not flawed. I fully expect the investigation to publish results, whether they support Trump's view or not. (LOL)
Do you have a cite for that?
@Horace said in Actions Have Consequences:
@89th said in Actions Have Consequences:
No the folks I listed above publicly came out in support of Milley's assessment of Trump. Whether they would've done the same thing, who knows, but they all agreed Milley's reasoning was not flawed. I fully expect the investigation to publish results, whether they support Trump's view or not. (LOL)
Do you have a cite for that?
Oh bloody hell, I read it somewhere recently. I'll see if I can find it.
Not sure, might have been an article similar to this: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4929487-trump-dangerous-milley-woodward/
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I've read some anonymous claims that he did nothing out of the ordinary, and that it was a standard sort of conversation. I have trouble swallowing that. The only names or offices I could find who specifically supported his calls to China were Biden, his press secretary, Bolton, and Milley's spokesperson.
Education is extremely important.
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I'd also note that Milley is on the fringe with his rhetoric about Trump, beyond even Bolton. "Fascist to the core", MSNBC style rhetoric. It's ok to admit the possibility that the guy is captured by TDS hysteria, and he let that affect his professional judgments. If anybody thinks army generals should be above that sort of thing, I think they should think again.
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I've read some anonymous claims that he did nothing out of the ordinary, and that it was a standard sort of conversation. I have trouble swallowing that. The only names or offices I could find who specifically supported his calls to China were Biden, his press secretary, Bolton, and Milley's spokesperson.
I've read some anonymous claims that he did nothing out of the ordinary, and that it was a standard sort of conversation. I have trouble swallowing that.
I recall myself defending Gen. Mike Flynn in TNCR in his capacity as unconfirmed NSA to President elect Trump, for having sensitive conversations with the Russian ambassador in late 2015. Flynn, rather than saying “it’s my job so shut up” decided it would be better to implicate Mike Pence as a cover. Dumb move, Flynn only managed to blindside and embarrass Pence and was forced to decline the NSA appointment. We saw a slight replay of the same this time with Gaetz.
I still doubt that Flynn did anything wrong. He was well within his station to speak directly to the Russian Ambassador. Same goes for Milley - he was speaking to his counterpart in China. If it had been with Xi it would have been beyond his station and wholly unacceptable. With his own military counterpart in Beijing, not at all. Both Flynn and Milley however were sloppy in dealing with the political blowback and ensuing feeding frenzy of hearsay spearheaded by media and politicians alike.
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Can we talk about the Afghan Withdrawal?
The Brad
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Can we talk about the Afghan Withdrawal?
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Can we talk about the Afghan Withdrawal?
@LuFins-Dad said in Actions Have Consequences:
Can we talk about the Afghan Withdrawal?
Wasn't that a 24kt fuck-up?...
