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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #17

    Probably try to pin the blame on us because with a threatened 25% tariff on all goods from Canada that 4.2 million bbls / day of discounted crude we ship to the US refineries to ensure the USA’s daily fuel consumption at 19 million bbls / day is satisfied, no longer becomes cheap.

    It could get more expensive if we begin to ease off on the daily delivery in retaliation.

    Then there’s the hydro electricity from Ontario and Quebec that feeds into the northeast, both provinces are talking about flipping the switch.

    Nothing is off the table.

    Elbows up!

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      #18

      If inflation runs wild due to tariffs, the population will not be happy, including those who voted for him not because they deify him, but because they wanted economic change. Which accounts for a lot of the people who voted for him. I expect Trump to care about inflation, and not to defeat all his purposes with them. I know, I'm not supposed to respect Trump to that extent, but actually I do.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        What precisely are we trying to get out of Taiwan?

        JollyJ Offline
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        #19

        @jon-nyc said in From the department of bad ideas:

        What precisely are we trying to get out of Taiwan?

        Factories.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • HoraceH Horace

          If inflation runs wild due to tariffs, the population will not be happy, including those who voted for him not because they deify him, but because they wanted economic change. Which accounts for a lot of the people who voted for him. I expect Trump to care about inflation, and not to defeat all his purposes with them. I know, I'm not supposed to respect Trump to that extent, but actually I do.

          RenaudaR Offline
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          Renauda
          wrote on last edited by Renauda
          #20

          @Horace

          I expect Trump to care about inflation, and not to defeat all his purposes with them.

          Possibly, although I think in his mind he truly believes he can control inflation by decree.

          What might make him back off on reckless tariffs is when their consequences have a negative effect on the stock markets. Precisely that is what happened during his first term owing to his ill advised steel and aluminum tariffs. He quickly backed tracked. It did not take long either. Even Trump can’t fool the markets for any length of time.

          Elbows up!

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @jon-nyc said in From the department of bad ideas:

            What precisely are we trying to get out of Taiwan?

            Factories.

            taiwan_girlT Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #21

            @Jolly said in From the department of bad ideas:

            @jon-nyc said in From the department of bad ideas:

            What precisely are we trying to get out of Taiwan?

            Factories.

            Yeah, but TSCM is already investing USD$XX billion at a plant in AZ. And, somebody said earlier that these factories take years to come up to operation. The biggest problem right now in the AZ plant is not the construction, but getting the proper labor.

            Forcing TSCM and other Taiwanese semi-conductor companies to build in the US does not solve that problem.

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              LuFins Dad
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              #22

              The one thing about Trump is he is not averse to reversing course. If he sees something going poorly, he’ll pull back and go in a different direction. Take the spending freeze. It was too confusing, people were bitching, and there was a legitimate shot that it would bite him in the ass. So he pulled it. If Trump sees inflationary reactions to fall that are actually incurred, he will pivot.

              The Brad

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              • RenaudaR Offline
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                Renauda
                wrote on last edited by Renauda
                #23

                We’ll see. Just be prepared for gas at the pump to increase. That will be first. There will be also other consumer product increases across the board in short order. That’s how it works when integrated supply chains such as they are North America are disrupted.

                Also, expect other countries to retaliate on the import of US goods and services not only in kind but in concert as well.

                Elbows up!

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @Jolly said in From the department of bad ideas:

                  @jon-nyc said in From the department of bad ideas:

                  What precisely are we trying to get out of Taiwan?

                  Factories.

                  Yeah, but TSCM is already investing USD$XX billion at a plant in AZ. And, somebody said earlier that these factories take years to come up to operation. The biggest problem right now in the AZ plant is not the construction, but getting the proper labor.

                  Forcing TSCM and other Taiwanese semi-conductor companies to build in the US does not solve that problem.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  #24

                  @taiwan_girl said in From the department of bad ideas:

                  @Jolly said in From the department of bad ideas:

                  @jon-nyc said in From the department of bad ideas:

                  What precisely are we trying to get out of Taiwan?

                  Factories.

                  Yeah, but TSCM is already investing USD$XX billion at a plant in AZ. And, somebody said earlier that these factories take years to come up to operation. The biggest problem right now in the AZ plant is not the construction, but getting the proper labor.

                  Forcing TSCM and other Taiwanese semi-conductor companies to build in the US does not solve that problem.

                  HB-1 does.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @taiwan_girl said in From the department of bad ideas:

                    @Jolly said in From the department of bad ideas:

                    @jon-nyc said in From the department of bad ideas:

                    What precisely are we trying to get out of Taiwan?

                    Factories.

                    Yeah, but TSCM is already investing USD$XX billion at a plant in AZ. And, somebody said earlier that these factories take years to come up to operation. The biggest problem right now in the AZ plant is not the construction, but getting the proper labor.

                    Forcing TSCM and other Taiwanese semi-conductor companies to build in the US does not solve that problem.

                    HB-1 does.

                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
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                    #25

                    @Jolly said in From the department of bad ideas:

                    @taiwan_girl said in From the department of bad ideas:

                    @Jolly said in From the department of bad ideas:

                    @jon-nyc said in From the department of bad ideas:

                    What precisely are we trying to get out of Taiwan?

                    Factories.

                    Yeah, but TSCM is already investing USD$XX billion at a plant in AZ. And, somebody said earlier that these factories take years to come up to operation. The biggest problem right now in the AZ plant is not the construction, but getting the proper labor.

                    Forcing TSCM and other Taiwanese semi-conductor companies to build in the US does not solve that problem.

                    HB-1 does.

                    "Factory" is the wrong answer.
                    We should want the talent and the know-how, maybe even the culture that fostered the talent and the know-how.

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      The one thing about Trump is he is not averse to reversing course. If he sees something going poorly, he’ll pull back and go in a different direction. Take the spending freeze. It was too confusing, people were bitching, and there was a legitimate shot that it would bite him in the ass. So he pulled it. If Trump sees inflationary reactions to fall that are actually incurred, he will pivot.

                      89th8 Offline
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                      #26

                      @LuFins-Dad said in From the department of bad ideas:

                      The one thing about Trump is he is not averse to reversing course. If he sees something going poorly, he’ll pull back and go in a different direction. Take the spending freeze. It was too confusing, people were bitching, and there was a legitimate shot that it would bite him in the ass. So he pulled it. If Trump sees inflationary reactions to fall that are actually incurred, he will pivot.

                      The inflationary concerns might be too subtle to change his mind but I’m not sure how much of America knows that tariffs are literally price increases paid by the end customer.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #27

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ Offline
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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #28

                          https://www.reuters.com/markets/wealth/trump-signs-executive-order-create-sovereign-wealth-fund-2025-02-03/

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • 89th8 Offline
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                            89th
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                            #29

                            Let's see if kids stay on Tik Tok once it's owned by the uncool boomer government.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              #30

                              I can't wait to hear them freak out over the data mining.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                #31

                                Bloomberg is how one monitors bond markets. Let’s make sure no one in the treasury department has access. Why would they need that, anyway?

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Bloomberg is how one monitors bond markets. Let’s make sure no one in the treasury department has access. Why would they need that, anyway?

                                  RenaudaR Offline
                                  RenaudaR Offline
                                  Renauda
                                  wrote on last edited by Renauda
                                  #32

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  May be they’ll utilize the services of astrologers to keep an eye on the markets.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #33

                                    I believe Politico Pro is the real target of this. And a well deserved one.

                                    The Brad

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      #34

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • 89th8 Offline
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                                        LOL. Yeah lots of stupidity out there right now.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

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                                          @jon-nyc said in From the department of bad ideas:

                                          Shhh!! Dont let the truth get in the way of a good story.

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