Couple Ls for the fat man
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I watched an attorney (one who is licensed, if that's the word, to argue before SCOTUS) talk about this. He made some interesting points.
First of all, the decisions by the lower appellate courts gave no legal basis for denying the appeal. One of judgments was only one page long, with no cited law. The other, though longer, also cited no legal basis for denial. They just said "nope."
However, and I think this is where SCOTUS is coming from, he questioned whether SCOTUS actually has jurisdiction in this case. I forget his reasoning for this - I'll have to rewatch it - but it makes sense if that's the case.
On the bright side, just like the child-molester, Trump can effectively pardon himself.
@George-K said in Couple Ls for the fat man:
First of all, the decisions by the lower appellate courts gave no legal basis for denying the appeal. One of judgments was only one page long, with no cited law. The other, though longer, also cited no legal basis for denial. They just said "nope."
I haven't read the judgement. But the case seemed pretty weak according to Advisory Opinions analysis yesterday. TFM made three arguments: (1) Immunity gives him the right to stay sentencing pending appeal , (2) Some evidence shouldn't have been allowed due to presidential immunity, (3) he's president elect, so he's special.
(1) It's true that in general, claims of immunity are adjudicated before court proceeding start (or continue) because immunity gives you immunity from the process itself. But this doesn't really apply since the crimes he was convicted of occurred before he was president.
(2) Some evidence introduced was from when he was president and might not have been allowed. This is true as far as it goes, but in general sentencing doesn't stop just because a defendant wants to appeal some evidence. You appeal after sentencing.
(3) The constitution doesn't recognize president-elect as a 'citizen+'. And while it's true he is busy interviewing people for roles, this stuff even happens before elections. We have one president at a time, and the fat man aint him.
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Hysterical.
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Trump will be known in the history books for his MAGA movement and January 6th. Maybe for presiding over COVID. And his business successes and bankruptcies, and I guess felonies, too. Oh and maybe giving Elon a blowjob, but future kids will claim it's AI.
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SCOTUS:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/010925zr_2d8f.pdf
The application for stay presented to Justice Sotomayor and
by her referred to the Court is denied for, inter alia, the
following reasons. First, the alleged evidentiary violations at
President-Elect Trump’s state-court trial can be addressed in the
ordinary course on appeal. Second, the burden that sentencing
will impose on the President-Elect’s responsibilities is
relatively insubstantial in light of the trial court’s stated
intent to impose a sentence of “unconditional discharge” after a
brief virtual hearing.Justice Thomas, Justice Alito, Justice Gorsuch, and Justice
Kavanaugh would grant the application.
IOW, the reason SCOTUS declined is because, as I noted above, the appeal process had not run its course.
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He gets sentenced in NY (5-4 SCOTUS) and Jack Smith can release his report. (As he should, it’s the law. Remember Hur’s report?)
I guess this will officially make him a convicted felon.
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The one the said over and over there was insufficient evidence to pursue him and then he threw in that comment so he’d be a magat hero instead of a magat goat.
But the point is the Biden DoJ released it.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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The one the said over and over there was insufficient evidence to pursue him and then he threw in that comment so he’d be a magat hero instead of a magat goat.
But the point is the Biden DoJ released it.
@jon-nyc said in Couple Ls for the fat man:
The one the said over and over there was insufficient evidence to pursue him
That’s the rub. Trump’s won’t show there was insufficient evidence to pursue him. Just not enough time, especially after scotus hit the ‘start over’ button in July.
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The one the said over and over there was insufficient evidence to pursue him and then he threw in that comment so he’d be a magat hero instead of a magat goat.
But the point is the Biden DoJ released it.
@jon-nyc said in Couple Ls for the fat man:
The one the said over and over there was insufficient evidence to pursue him and then he threw in that comment so he’d be a magat hero instead of a magat goat.
But the point is the Biden DoJ released it.
IOW, you're willing to accept Hur's comment that there's insufficent evidence, but you won't accept the Hur's comment that, at the time the geezer was not quite as brain-addled as he is now.
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I mentioned the Hur report. Despite knowing exactly what I was referring to you pretended to ask a clarifying question while your real intention was to frame it differently with some commentary. I did the same.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
