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Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 13:54 last edited by
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    Republicans put out a bill that would cover the costs of running the government, pay $100,000,000,000 in disaster relief, and extend the farm bill. Not a single democrat voted for it because it lacked 1300 pages of pork…

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 14:05 last edited by
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      What was the reason given by the 38 no votes by republicans?

      The Brad

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 14:07 last edited by
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        One of Trump’s many failures is his inability to promote and endorse others. There are so many Dem House members in districts that he won…

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 15:29 last edited by
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 15:34 last edited by
            #29

            So let me throw it out there. Does DOGE want a shutdown? The last shutdown strengthened their argument about how little government actually accomplishes, and the US got along just fine during the shutdown… It also helps them see what programs and departments truly are critical and how much is actually just overkill and redundant.

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              89th
              wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 17:40 last edited by
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              Shutting down the government is like turning off a train at high speed. The "See? Nothing changed" argument doesn't hold water over time.

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                89th
                wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 17:41 last edited by
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                Aside from function, the indirect impact you would feel with dropping sales at your shop @LuFins-Dad and more people on @Copper 's golf course. No bueno.

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                  20 Dec 2024, 17:40

                  Shutting down the government is like turning off a train at high speed. The "See? Nothing changed" argument doesn't hold water over time.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 17:46 last edited by
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                  @89th said in Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024:

                  Shutting down the government is like turning off a train at high speed. The "See? Nothing changed" argument doesn't hold water over time.

                  Very little did change the last time… 35 days…

                  The Brad

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                    89th
                    wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 17:53 last edited by
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                    Oh I meant longer term than that. I think there's like 3 million people in NoVa, of which 600,000 are either federal employees or federal contractors. Let's say the top 50% of the 3 million can afford a piano, you're looking at 40% of the local market no longer having the means to purchase a piano. Again, long term...

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                      89th
                      wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 17:53 last edited by
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                      BTW I'm not saying that is a reason to keep the government open. Pretty much each job I have departed I could easily see 20-30% of the team cut without any impact to the team's output, for various reasons.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 18:03 last edited by jon-nyc
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                        We won’t notice …. Unless we do. Like if you’re the one who can’t get his passport renewed in time, or you’re the one who faces a 2 hour delay at airport security or a canceled flight because so many call in sick (like last time), tired of working without getting paid.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          20 Dec 2024, 14:05

                          What was the reason given by the 38 no votes by republicans?

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 18:09 last edited by
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024:

                          What was the reason given by the 38 no votes by republicans?

                          Didn’t want to raise the debt limit without spending cuts.

                          Trump had been insisting on raising it before he gets into office so it isn’t ’on him’.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            20 Dec 2024, 18:09

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024:

                            What was the reason given by the 38 no votes by republicans?

                            Didn’t want to raise the debt limit without spending cuts.

                            Trump had been insisting on raising it before he gets into office so it isn’t ’on him’.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 18:12 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024:

                            What was the reason given by the 38 no votes by republicans?

                            Didn’t want to raise the debt limit without spending cuts.

                            Trump had been insisting on raising it before he gets into office so it isn’t ’on him’.

                            Ok, respectable.

                            The Brad

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 18:19 last edited by
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                              Interesting that ~20% of his house caucus will defy him despite the fact that they could face primaries in 14 months or so.

                              Makes me optimistic that there will be enough senate votes to kill Kennedy.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                20 Dec 2024, 18:19

                                Interesting that ~20% of his house caucus will defy him despite the fact that they could face primaries in 14 months or so.

                                Makes me optimistic that there will be enough senate votes to kill Kennedy.

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                                Renauda
                                wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 19:13 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc

                                Makes me optimistic that there will be enough senate votes to kill Kennedy

                                Funny how it’s always a Kennedy that gets killed.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  20 Dec 2024, 19:13

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  Makes me optimistic that there will be enough senate votes to kill Kennedy

                                  Funny how it’s always a Kennedy that gets killed.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 20 Dec 2024, 22:10 last edited by
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                                  @Renauda said in Government Shutdown -- Winter 2024:

                                  @jon-nyc

                                  Makes me optimistic that there will be enough senate votes to kill Kennedy

                                  Funny how it’s always a Kennedy that gets killed.

                                  Speaking of musical genius...

                                  Link to video

                                  I was only joking

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 21 Dec 2024, 13:32 last edited by
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                                    So they take the debt ceiling issue out of the CR and it passes. Any word from DJT?

                                    The Brad

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