Glad the free speech folks are in charge
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Chomsky once said “I’m all for free speech but….” isn’t some middle ground. It’s how the anti-free speech side has always been expressed.
In woke times I loved pulling that out to lefties who wanted to ban
hate speechspeech they hated. Because invariably they claimed Chomsky as a kindred spirit and it caused them palpable discomfort to imagine themselves on the other side of this issue from him.@jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
Chomsky once said “I’m all for free speech but….” isn’t some middle ground. It’s how the anti-free speech side has always been expressed.
It's not a categorically wrong beginning of a sentence, as I think most people agree that free speech absolutism is incoherent with other commonly accepted rights. Of course as Bondi fumbled around about "hate speech", she was as wrong about that as the left always has been. And the mainstream right pundit class rejected it.
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Yes one could phrase a prohibition of libel that way, for example. But Chomsky was referring to what we constantly saw among the woke left and, now that they have institutional power, the woke right. Namely a category of speech they find particularly offensive to them.
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Words aren’t violence. Violence is violence. In this case, pretending that Kirk’s words were violence created actual violence.
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Now we're nitpicking rhetorical meaning of political rhetoric and whether the murderer ever uttered certain words in a certain order. This is peak rhetorical combat. Meanwhile, the politically motivated assassin subscribed to banal self-righteous hatred of the right, the likes of which can be consumed from any common source of left-wing punditry. The only thing fringe about him were his actions. His words were totally mainstream.
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He’ll probably get a short term ratings boost.
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I think we all know that Donald Trump is the real victim here.
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The correct take on the Kimmel fiasco
Link to video@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
The correct take on the Kimmel fiasco
Link to videoCorrect
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@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
The correct take on the Kimmel fiasco
Link to videoCorrect
@LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
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Can you summarize it for those of us who've taken a couple of Tylenol?
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@LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
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Can you summarize it for those of us who've taken a couple of Tylenol?
@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
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Can you summarize it for those of us who've taken a couple of Tylenol?
Trump stepped on his own dick. Seriously? Take the 10 minutes and watch it.
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21 minutes. I dipped in.
It's obvious that this is a massive own goal for Trump. Stupidity and arrogance is never a good combination, and he's surrounded himself with a bunch of toadies who just do what he tells them because for some reason or other.
I don't really like Jimmy Kimmel's tearful shit.
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21 minutes. I dipped in.
It's obvious that this is a massive own goal for Trump. Stupidity and arrogance is never a good combination, and he's surrounded himself with a bunch of toadies who just do what he tells them because for some reason or other.
I don't really like Jimmy Kimmel's tearful shit.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
21 minutes. I dipped in.
It's obvious that this is a massive own goal for Trump. Stupidity and arrogance is never a good combination, and he's surrounded himself with a bunch of toadies who just do what he tells them because for some reason or other.
I don't really like Jimmy Kimmel's tearful shit.
There’s another good take…
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Dont know much about either guy (Rogan or Kimmel)
Joe Rogan has rushed to the defense of Jimmy Kimmel over the 'joke' that got him pulled from the air, while calling the Trump administration 'crazy' for going after the late-night host.
On his podcast Tuesday, Rogan slammed Kimmel's suspension over his comments about Charlie Kirk as an affront to free speech, warning that those who hailed the decision could face similar consequences.
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The host also poked fun at Trump's reaction to the shooting.
'This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he calls a friend,' he said. 'This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish.'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-15129429/joe-rogan-jimmy-kimmel-donald-trump.html
