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Glad the free speech folks are in charge

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  • 89th8 Offline
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    Thanks for sharing LD, good commentary (and wit) from Maher as always.

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      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        #230

        Chomsky once said “I’m all for free speech but….” isn’t some middle ground. It’s how the anti-free speech side has always been expressed.

        In woke times I loved pulling that out to lefties who wanted to ban hate speech speech they hated. Because invariably they claimed Chomsky as a kindred spirit and it caused them palpable discomfort to imagine themselves on the other side of this issue from him.

        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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        • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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          https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1135689774572837

          I was only joking

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Chomsky once said “I’m all for free speech but….” isn’t some middle ground. It’s how the anti-free speech side has always been expressed.

            In woke times I loved pulling that out to lefties who wanted to ban hate speech speech they hated. Because invariably they claimed Chomsky as a kindred spirit and it caused them palpable discomfort to imagine themselves on the other side of this issue from him.

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            #232

            @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

            Chomsky once said “I’m all for free speech but….” isn’t some middle ground. It’s how the anti-free speech side has always been expressed.

            It's not a categorically wrong beginning of a sentence, as I think most people agree that free speech absolutism is incoherent with other commonly accepted rights. Of course as Bondi fumbled around about "hate speech", she was as wrong about that as the left always has been. And the mainstream right pundit class rejected it.

            Education is extremely important.

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              #233

              Yes one could phrase a prohibition of libel that way, for example. But Chomsky was referring to what we constantly saw among the woke left and, now that they have institutional power, the woke right. Namely a category of speech they find particularly offensive to them.

              If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                Words aren’t violence. Violence is violence. In this case, pretending that Kirk’s words were violence created actual violence.

                The Brad

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                  #235

                  What’s your evidence that the killer thought Kirk’s words were violence? I only saw him labeling them as hateful. The same designation your party’s leaders are giving to words that they don’t like.

                  If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Now we're nitpicking rhetorical meaning of political rhetoric and whether the murderer ever uttered certain words in a certain order. This is peak rhetorical combat. Meanwhile, the politically motivated assassin subscribed to banal self-righteous hatred of the right, the likes of which can be consumed from any common source of left-wing punditry. The only thing fringe about him were his actions. His words were totally mainstream.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • 89th8 Offline
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                      Faster than I expected. Kimmel’s show to return within a week or so.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #238

                        Cool.

                        If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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                        • LuFins DadL Offline
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                          He’ll probably get a short term ratings boost.

                          The Brad

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                            Worst authoritarianism ever.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            😊
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                              Link to video

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                              • HoraceH Offline
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                                The correct take on the Kimmel fiasco

                                Link to video

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  #243

                                  I think we all know that Donald Trump is the real victim here.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    The correct take on the Kimmel fiasco

                                    Link to video

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                                    @Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                    The correct take on the Kimmel fiasco

                                    Link to video

                                    Correct

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                      The correct take on the Kimmel fiasco

                                      Link to video

                                      Correct

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                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                      Correct

                                      Can you summarize it for those of us who've taken a couple of Tylenol?

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                        Correct

                                        Can you summarize it for those of us who've taken a couple of Tylenol?

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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                                        Correct

                                        Can you summarize it for those of us who've taken a couple of Tylenol?

                                        Trump stepped on his own dick. Seriously? Take the 10 minutes and watch it.

                                        The Brad

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                                          21 minutes. I dipped in.

                                          It's obvious that this is a massive own goal for Trump. Stupidity and arrogance is never a good combination, and he's surrounded himself with a bunch of toadies who just do what he tells them because for some reason or other.

                                          I don't really like Jimmy Kimmel's tearful shit.

                                          I was only joking

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