Glad the free speech folks are in charge
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@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.
I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.
I suspect the manner in which these people will be "gone after" by the Trump admin, will be through legal processes.
To inevitably be followed by complaints about how terrible all these judges are and how life is so unfair.
I frequently lie awake at night worrying that one day I might inadvertently become a billionaire, with all the victimhood that would bring.
wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 16:02 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.
I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.
I suspect the manner in which these people will be "gone after" by the Trump admin, will be through legal processes.
To inevitably be followed by complaints about how terrible all these judges are and how life is so unfair.
I frequently lie awake at night worrying that one day I might inadvertently become a billionaire, with all the victimhood that would bring.
Billionaires shouldn't complain. Hot take.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.
I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.
I suspect the manner in which these people will be "gone after" by the Trump admin, will be through legal processes.
wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 16:06 last edited by@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.
I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.
I suspect the manner in which these people will be "gone after" by the Trump admin, will be through legal processes.
Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.
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@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.
I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.
I suspect the manner in which these people will be "gone after" by the Trump admin, will be through legal processes.
Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.
wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 16:09 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.
I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.
I suspect the manner in which these people will be "gone after" by the Trump admin, will be through legal processes.
Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.
And just like that, legal process itself is suspect. I know, we can play rhetorical games all day. It's why this place is so compelling, everybody is convinced by craftily crafted words. Immerse each other in our emotional perspectives masquerading as reason. I love it!
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 16:18 last edited by jon-nyc
Well it isn’t actually illegal to spread lies and propaganda, which Elon Musk under appreciates. He’s almost certainly the single largest individual spreader of lies and propaganda the earth has ever seen.
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What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.
I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.
wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 17:09 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.
I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.
NYT vs. Sullivan
Been screaming it for years.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 17:13 last edited by
One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.
And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.
So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it
If I was close enough I'd spit on you.
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wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 17:16 last edited by jon-nyc
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but nobody here didn’t notice and comment on Biden’s obvious incapacity for the job.
And surely the Soviet Union and other nations have spread far more lies and propaganda. But Elon probably leads the world in doing so as an individual, out of all the human beings who have ever lived. No one in the past had the reach.
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Well it isn’t actually illegal to spread lies and propaganda, which Elon Musk under appreciates. He’s almost certainly the single largest individual spreader of lies and propaganda the earth has ever seen.
wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 17:19 last edited byHe’s [Musk] almost certainly the single largest individual spreader of lies and propaganda the earth has ever seen.
I would say in the top three. He faces some pretty stiff competition for the top spot from Putin and even his own boss, Trump.
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One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.
And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.
So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it
If I was close enough I'd spit on you.
wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 17:33 last edited by@Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.
And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.
So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it
If I was close enough I'd spit on you.
You must live in a parallel reality if you think nobody here said anything about Joe Biden's fairly obvious incapability.
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One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.
And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.
So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it
If I was close enough I'd spit on you.
wrote on 28 Mar 2025, 17:46 last edited by@Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.
And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.
So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it
If I was close enough I'd spit on you.
He had moments of lucidity (not brilliance). Like the SOTU last year. Everyone expected him to fall flat on his face, but he didn’t. It finally happened at the debate.
Hard to pull the plug on someone who can be “on” (I use that term loosely) at some points.
He was already on that decline when he was voted in, so it wasn’t a surprise. I think that reflects more on Trump. The dems did get their comeuppance where it mattered too - at the ballot box.
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@Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.
And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.
So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it
If I was close enough I'd spit on you.
You must live in a parallel reality if you think nobody here said anything about Joe Biden's fairly obvious incapability.
wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 01:13 last edited by Renauda@Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
@Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.
And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.
So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it
If I was close enough I'd spit on you.
You must live in a parallel reality if you think nobody here said anything about Joe Biden's fairly obvious incapability.
I believe that has been well understood for sometime now.
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Tiberius was right. Most people don’t want freedom. They want a kind master. That’s certainly the case, to a person, with the maga movement.
wrote on 29 Mar 2025, 01:39 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
They want a kind master. That’s certainly the case, to a person, with the maga movement.
Hence the tie-in with monotheistic religious fervor.
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wrote on 14 Apr 2025, 06:22 last edited by jon-nyc
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wrote on 11 Jun 2025, 14:54 last edited by jon-nyc 6 Nov 2025, 14:54
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wrote on 11 Jun 2025, 15:24 last edited by
Just be prepared to keep that outraged face available for when a restaurant decides to have a bunch of racist labels on their menu, and they get sued for discrimination. Have fun being the face of free speech then.
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wrote on 11 Jun 2025, 15:59 last edited by
It’s more smugness than outrage. I always knew they were lying, including to themselves, when they pretended to be free speech champions.
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It’s more smugness than outrage. I always knew they were lying, including to themselves, when they pretended to be free speech champions.
wrote on 11 Jun 2025, 16:14 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:
It’s more smugness than outrage. I always knew they were lying, including to themselves, when they pretended to be free speech champions.
It's good that you find such satisfaction in anecdotes that disprove unrealistic idealized positions that your outgroup definitely claims to have.
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wrote on 11 Jun 2025, 17:17 last edited by
Right on cue.
President Trump announces he will be supporting legislation to jail people for a mandatory ONE YEAR for burning the American flag in the street
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wrote on 18 Jun 2025, 17:48 last edited by
What is that quote from a US soldier? Something like:
I hate you for burning a US flag, but I fought for your right to do so.
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wrote 6 days ago last edited by
As most of us knew all along, the white house was within its rights to exclude the AP.
