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Glad the free speech folks are in charge

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

    What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.

    I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.

    I suspect the manner in which these people will be "gone after" by the Trump admin, will be through legal processes.

    Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.

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    @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

    @Horace said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

    What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.

    I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.

    I suspect the manner in which these people will be "gone after" by the Trump admin, will be through legal processes.

    Show me the man, I’ll show you the crime.

    And just like that, legal process itself is suspect. I know, we can play rhetorical games all day. It's why this place is so compelling, everybody is convinced by craftily crafted words. Immerse each other in our emotional perspectives masquerading as reason. I love it!

    Education is extremely important.

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      #107

      Well it isn’t actually illegal to spread lies and propaganda, which Elon Musk under appreciates. He’s almost certainly the single largest individual spreader of lies and propaganda the earth has ever seen.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.

        I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.

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        @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

        What we really need is for them to make libel illegal. I know, that's kind of controversial, because it would mean there'd be lawsuits and stuff.

        I don't know if you Americans are familiar with the concept of lawsuits, it probably has never happened over here.

        NYT vs. Sullivan

        Been screaming it for years.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.

          And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.

          So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it

          If I was close enough I'd spit on you.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            #110

            Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but nobody here didn’t notice and comment on Biden’s obvious incapacity for the job.

            And surely the Soviet Union and other nations have spread far more lies and propaganda. But Elon probably leads the world in doing so as an individual, out of all the human beings who have ever lived. No one in the past had the reach.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Well it isn’t actually illegal to spread lies and propaganda, which Elon Musk under appreciates. He’s almost certainly the single largest individual spreader of lies and propaganda the earth has ever seen.

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              @jon-nyc

              He’s [Musk] almost certainly the single largest individual spreader of lies and propaganda the earth has ever seen.

              I would say in the top three. He faces some pretty stiff competition for the top spot from Putin and even his own boss, Trump.

              Elbows up!

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.

                And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.

                So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it

                If I was close enough I'd spit on you.

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                @Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.

                And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.

                So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it

                If I was close enough I'd spit on you.

                You must live in a parallel reality if you think nobody here said anything about Joe Biden's fairly obvious incapability.

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.

                  And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.

                  So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it

                  If I was close enough I'd spit on you.

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                  @Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                  One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.

                  And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.

                  So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it

                  If I was close enough I'd spit on you.

                  He had moments of lucidity (not brilliance). Like the SOTU last year. Everyone expected him to fall flat on his face, but he didn’t. It finally happened at the debate.

                  Hard to pull the plug on someone who can be “on” (I use that term loosely) at some points.

                  He was already on that decline when he was voted in, so it wasn’t a surprise. I think that reflects more on Trump. The dems did get their comeuppance where it mattered too - at the ballot box.

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                    @Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                    One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.

                    And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.

                    So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it

                    If I was close enough I'd spit on you.

                    You must live in a parallel reality if you think nobody here said anything about Joe Biden's fairly obvious incapability.

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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                    @Jolly said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                    One of the biggest lies in the history of the U S. was the Biden cover-up.

                    And none of you Trump hating muthafuckers said barely a word, except to lie and deny what everybody could see.

                    So pardon me if I doubt your veracity when it comes to this administration. I know you nitpicking nabobs of negativity would love to see this country fail, because winning has replaced what you think about the country and at least half the people who live in it

                    If I was close enough I'd spit on you.

                    You must live in a parallel reality if you think nobody here said anything about Joe Biden's fairly obvious incapability.

                    I believe that has been well understood for sometime now.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Tiberius was right. Most people don’t want freedom. They want a kind master. That’s certainly the case, to a person, with the maga movement.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

                      They want a kind master. That’s certainly the case, to a person, with the maga movement.

                      Hence the tie-in with monotheistic religious fervor.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        Only non-witches get due process.

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