Mr. Clemency
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@taiwan_girl said in Mr. Clemency:
Pardons overall should be eliminated.
Constitutional amendment.
Good luck.
wrote on 23 Dec 2024, 01:55 last edited by Renauda@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
@taiwan_girl said in Mr. Clemency:
Pardons overall should be eliminated.
Constitutional amendment.
Good luck
A hand me down remnant of royal privilege from the much maligned right of kings era.
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wrote on 23 Dec 2024, 14:29 last edited by
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wrote on 23 Dec 2024, 14:41 last edited by George K
"But guided by my conscience and my experience as a public defender, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Vice President, and now President, I am more convinced than ever that we must stop the use of the death penalty at the federal level. In good conscience, I cannot stand back and let a new administration resume executions that I halted."
Among those receiving the holiday cheer is Thomas Sanders, who in 2010 kidnapped and then shot 12-year-Lexis Roberts four times and cut her throat in Louisiana — days after the girl watched as Sanders murdered her mother on a road trip near the Grand Canyon.
Christmas also came early for Anthony Battle, who murdered an Atlanta prison guard with a hammer in 1994 while serving a life sentence for raping and murdering his wife, a US Marine, in 1987 at Camp Lejeune, NC.
Jorge Avila-Torrez sexually assaulted and stabbed to death two girls — Laura Hobbs, 8, and Krystal Tobias, 9 — who had been riding their bicycles in their neighborhood in a suburb north of Chicago in 2005.
Four years later, he strangled naval officer Amanda Snell, 20, inside her barrack in Arlington, Va.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violent_Crime_Control_and_Law_Enforcement_Act
Guess who authored the Senate version of this bill.
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wrote on 23 Dec 2024, 15:45 last edited by
Jesus. He’s not the president anyway. But it gives you a more complete window into what we might have expected from another Democratic administration.
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wrote on 23 Dec 2024, 21:17 last edited by
I doubt that Mr. Biden even knows this was done.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 00:27 last edited by
I remember that case well. Sanders killed her about 35 miles from my house. The trial was held in the federal courthouse closest to me.
Sanders shot Lexis four times and cut her throat when she didn't die fast enough. Then he threw her body into the woods to rot.
Her remains had to be identified by dental records.
I don't know if he's in Oakdale or Pollock. I hope next year the guards "forget" about him for awhile.
You know, the Bible gives definitive dimensions for Heaven. Hell is a little different. It enlarges as the population increases. I hope Satan has an extra special place for Mr. Sanders.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 00:35 last edited by
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 00:49 last edited by
Surprised it took so long...
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 01:13 last edited by
Heard on the radio today, that privately, several Dems are upset with this one.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 01:21 last edited by
@Jolly said in Mr. Clemency:
Heard on the radio today, that privately, several Dems are upset with this one.
And they plan to....what?
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 02:08 last edited by
Do nothing, I would suspect.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 02:45 last edited by
Be upset. But man, he is providing enough Willie Hortons to last for decades.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 03:25 last edited by
Take comfort in the fact that the murderers are not going to be released.
Right?
RIGHT???
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 05:18 last edited by
Clemency was never intended to be used in this manner. Totally inappropriate. If you can convince the legislature to abolish capital punishment, great. All for it. But not like this.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 21:41 last edited by jon-nyc
@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
It could happen...
I don’t think so. He could pardon them for past violations of immigration law, but that wouldn’t change their immigration status. They’d be illegal again tomorrow.
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wrote on 24 Dec 2024, 22:35 last edited by
It might protect them from prosecution but not deportation.
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wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 02:24 last edited by George K
@George-K said in Mr. Clemency:
Mollie continues:
Not sure if #1 is an issue. Did he even know that the law he proposed 25 years ago was a "matter of conscience?"
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wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 02:31 last edited by
More piling on on the subject of hypocrisy:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1871216903953502547.html?utm_campaign=topunroll
tl;dr - some murderers are more worthy of clemency than others, depending on their political usefulness.
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wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 04:38 last edited by
Like I said, a lifetime supply of Willie Hortons for Dem candidates. They will either have to stand up for these moves or condemn them. Neither position is anything they will want to adopt. The squirming will be delicious.