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What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

    It's a crock. Unnamed sources saying it happened vs. anybody who was there saying it didn't.

    If it wasn't Trump, it would never have been published.

    Maybe the people who heard those disparaging remarks first hand will come out, one or two a week, drip drip drip in the next few weeks.

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    @Axtremus said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

    @Jolly said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

    It's a crock. Unnamed sources saying it happened vs. anybody who was there saying it didn't.

    If it wasn't Trump, it would never have been published.

    Maybe the people who heard those disparaging remarks first hand will come out, one or two a week, drip drip drip in the next few weeks.

    Haha. Like any Trump allegation survives the scrutiny of a week. So glad you brought this up. Most your duds here don’t even survive 48 hours.

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      If there is a video tape of President Trump proving he DID NOT say it, half the people will still say - " Doesn't matter. He meant to say it."
      And the other half saying - "See, I told you so!"

      If there is a video tape of President Trump proving he DID say it, half the people will still say - "Doesn't matter. He didn't really mean it."
      And the other half saying, "See, I told you so!"

      LOL

      (My personal opinion is that he probably did not say it. Seems like a strange thing to say. President Trump says a lot of goofy things, but I dont think this is one of them.)

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        If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

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          @Horace LOL

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            If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

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            @Horace said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

            If Trump said something that half the people consider bad and half consider good, half the ones who consider it bad would accuse half the other half of believing it wasn't half bad, while half of the other half would consider their cup half full by saying the other half of the half was empty.

            But before the cup can be half full, it must be a quarter full. But that can't happen until it is first 1/8 full, which can't happen until it is 1/16th full. Eventually you realize you need to make an infinite number of cup fillings in a finite amount of time, which is impossible, ergo Trump hates veterans.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              It's a crock. A lot of the silliness in the MSM, is to cover Joe's softball press conference.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                All this just confirms what I said. Whether it happened or not is irrelevant. What’s painful is that it’s obvious that it’s conceivable.

                It’s inconceivable that Biden would make such a statement.

                It’s also inconceivable that Obama would make such a statement.

                Hey it’s even true that Pence would never say it.

                But Donald, yea, he really could have.

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                  Self-fulfilling prophecy.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    I don't always hate Trump for being so hateable. But when I do, I hate him for making me hate him because he's so hateable.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      It never ceases to amaze me at how gullible people are. An "anonymous source" tells a leftwing news rag something negative about Trump, they run it in the news, everyone who was in the room when the alleged incident allegedly took place says it didnt happen, and you hear shit like "well, even if it didn't happen it COULD have happrned." Give me a fucking break. Where have we heard this before.... golly gee, this is the first time something like this has ever happened, the Left/democrats would NEVER lie, they're so morally superior!!

                      You can expect a minimum of one "gotcha" story per week until November. The Left, and the democrat party, have no shame, no principles, and are vile, evil pieces of shit who think the public is stupid.

                      Stop proving them correct by buying into bull shit every time they roll out another pile of it.

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                        Whether it is true, it doesn't matter to the TDS people, it is fun.

                        And the Trump people just know it is false.

                        It doesn't matter either way.

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Again, look at his actions. Does he seem like a president who doesn't respect our veterans? I can't see it. I don't think it is conceivable that he said, it, which is the essence of this thread.

                          Look, the guy's an ass in many ways. But not this one.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            I could see holding that view if the diss on POWs hadn’t been caught on film but it was. And these are roughly the same sentiment.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                So Trump doesn’t go to one cemetery in a helicopter due to weather but goes to another closer one by car in the rain the next day to honor fallen American soldiers and let’s his hair get wet.

                                It just deconstructs a couple of the arguments by the “anonymously sources.

                                What I posted are facts, what others posted are allegations.

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                                  So the next day we see Trump pay tribute to veterans in the rain with no umbrella to protect his hair (wtf was that allegation that was floated this week) where he says something on the order of the vets NOBLY gave their lives to secure the peace...

                                  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-pays-tribute-veterans-alliances-two-world-wars-n934966

                                  Context you will never see in the MSM and their anonymous allegations. Like I say always do your homework before believing the propaganda foisted at us.

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                                    Are the "anonymous sources" telling the truth about Trump disparaging the veterans. That's possibly true.

                                    Are the same sources telling the truth about Trump not wanting to fly there? That's patently false.

                                    So, if they lie about one thing, why should you believe them about the other?

                                    Here's what the Atlantic reported:

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                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • George KG George K

                                      Are the "anonymous sources" telling the truth about Trump disparaging the veterans. That's possibly true.

                                      Are the same sources telling the truth about Trump not wanting to fly there? That's patently false.

                                      So, if they lie about one thing, why should you believe them about the other?

                                      Here's what the Atlantic reported:

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                                      @George-K said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                                      Here's what the Atlantic reported:

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                                      My grandfather got a leg full of German machine gun bullets at Belleau Wood

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                                        His hair disheveled. That’s what we’ve come to folks as news. The next day all the major new stations show him honoring the dead in the rain with no umbrella. LOL.

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                                          Yeah, I get it. Trump is a vain, boorish, arrogant SOB.

                                          In my opinion, he really is.

                                          But, how unhinged is this reporting?

                                          "Trump rejected the idea because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain..."

                                          And you said that with a straight face. Did the Atlantic's "anonymous" sources say that, or did they just make it up? My guess is the latter.

                                          He's an obnoxious prick, as I said. But if you're going to make ridiculous statements like that, back them up, preferably with names.

                                          BTW: Did the Atlantic report on the next day's ceremonies (too lazy to look it up)?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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