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What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha

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  • LarryL Offline
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    Larry
    wrote on last edited by
    #27

    It never ceases to amaze me at how gullible people are. An "anonymous source" tells a leftwing news rag something negative about Trump, they run it in the news, everyone who was in the room when the alleged incident allegedly took place says it didnt happen, and you hear shit like "well, even if it didn't happen it COULD have happrned." Give me a fucking break. Where have we heard this before.... golly gee, this is the first time something like this has ever happened, the Left/democrats would NEVER lie, they're so morally superior!!

    You can expect a minimum of one "gotcha" story per week until November. The Left, and the democrat party, have no shame, no principles, and are vile, evil pieces of shit who think the public is stupid.

    Stop proving them correct by buying into bull shit every time they roll out another pile of it.

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    • CopperC Online
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      Copper
      wrote on last edited by
      #28

      Whether it is true, it doesn't matter to the TDS people, it is fun.

      And the Trump people just know it is false.

      It doesn't matter either way.

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      • MikM Offline
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        wrote on last edited by Mik
        #29

        Again, look at his actions. Does he seem like a president who doesn't respect our veterans? I can't see it. I don't think it is conceivable that he said, it, which is the essence of this thread.

        Look, the guy's an ass in many ways. But not this one.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
          #30

          I could see holding that view if the diss on POWs hadn’t been caught on film but it was. And these are roughly the same sentiment.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #31

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            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • L Offline
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              Loki
              wrote on last edited by
              #32

              So Trump doesn’t go to one cemetery in a helicopter due to weather but goes to another closer one by car in the rain the next day to honor fallen American soldiers and let’s his hair get wet.

              It just deconstructs a couple of the arguments by the “anonymously sources.

              What I posted are facts, what others posted are allegations.

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              • L Offline
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                Loki
                wrote on last edited by
                #33

                So the next day we see Trump pay tribute to veterans in the rain with no umbrella to protect his hair (wtf was that allegation that was floated this week) where he says something on the order of the vets NOBLY gave their lives to secure the peace...

                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-pays-tribute-veterans-alliances-two-world-wars-n934966

                Context you will never see in the MSM and their anonymous allegations. Like I say always do your homework before believing the propaganda foisted at us.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by George K
                  #34

                  Are the "anonymous sources" telling the truth about Trump disparaging the veterans. That's possibly true.

                  Are the same sources telling the truth about Trump not wanting to fly there? That's patently false.

                  So, if they lie about one thing, why should you believe them about the other?

                  Here's what the Atlantic reported:

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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    Are the "anonymous sources" telling the truth about Trump disparaging the veterans. That's possibly true.

                    Are the same sources telling the truth about Trump not wanting to fly there? That's patently false.

                    So, if they lie about one thing, why should you believe them about the other?

                    Here's what the Atlantic reported:

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                    CopperC Online
                    CopperC Online
                    Copper
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #35

                    @George-K said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                    Here's what the Atlantic reported:

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                    My grandfather got a leg full of German machine gun bullets at Belleau Wood

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                    • L Offline
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                      Loki
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #36

                      His hair disheveled. That’s what we’ve come to folks as news. The next day all the major new stations show him honoring the dead in the rain with no umbrella. LOL.

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        #37

                        Yeah, I get it. Trump is a vain, boorish, arrogant SOB.

                        In my opinion, he really is.

                        But, how unhinged is this reporting?

                        "Trump rejected the idea because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain..."

                        And you said that with a straight face. Did the Atlantic's "anonymous" sources say that, or did they just make it up? My guess is the latter.

                        He's an obnoxious prick, as I said. But if you're going to make ridiculous statements like that, back them up, preferably with names.

                        BTW: Did the Atlantic report on the next day's ceremonies (too lazy to look it up)?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                        MikM 1 Reply Last reply
                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #38

                          Turley comments:

                          "The real story this week is not whether Trump or The Atlantic are lying but why either possibility is viewed as equally plausible. The public is left with an incredible tale told by two equally noncredible sources. That is the real story — and a truly sad one."

                          Yeah....

                          "Two equally non credible sources..."

                          Many here will say that Trump lies. Will they have the same opinion of Goldberg and The Atlantic?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • RainmanR Offline
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                            Rainman
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                            #39

                            Yeah, and EVERYONE that points out the obvious still needs to cloak their position now with, "I am not a racist I think Trump's a jerk, but..."
                            We have been trained by TDS to always point out something negative, before sticking our toe in the water to carefully and cautiously present a perspective that is not anti-Trump.

                            I wish they would do it.

                            Could you imagine people, MSM or including forum members prefacing, "Although Trump has done much to be commended for..." before they slam him with innuendo?

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                            • George KG George K

                              Yeah, I get it. Trump is a vain, boorish, arrogant SOB.

                              In my opinion, he really is.

                              But, how unhinged is this reporting?

                              "Trump rejected the idea because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain..."

                              And you said that with a straight face. Did the Atlantic's "anonymous" sources say that, or did they just make it up? My guess is the latter.

                              He's an obnoxious prick, as I said. But if you're going to make ridiculous statements like that, back them up, preferably with names.

                              BTW: Did the Atlantic report on the next day's ceremonies (too lazy to look it up)?

                              MikM Offline
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                              Mik
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #40

                              @George-K said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                              Yeah, I get it. Trump is a vain, boorish, arrogant SOB.

                              In my opinion, he really is.

                              But, how unhinged is this reporting?

                              "Trump rejected the idea because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain..."

                              And you said that with a straight face. Did the Atlantic's "anonymous" sources say that, or did they just make it up? My guess is the latter.

                              He's an obnoxious prick, as I said. But if you're going to make ridiculous statements like that, back them up, preferably with names.

                              BTW: Did the Atlantic report on the next day's ceremonies (too lazy to look it up)?

                              We will stipulate his faults. But I think what Atlantic et al does is much worse.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • George KG George K

                                Turley comments:

                                "The real story this week is not whether Trump or The Atlantic are lying but why either possibility is viewed as equally plausible. The public is left with an incredible tale told by two equally noncredible sources. That is the real story — and a truly sad one."

                                Yeah....

                                "Two equally non credible sources..."

                                Many here will say that Trump lies. Will they have the same opinion of Goldberg and The Atlantic?

                                MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #41

                                @George-K said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                                Turley comments:

                                "The real story this week is not whether Trump or The Atlantic are lying but why either possibility is viewed as equally plausible. The public is left with an incredible tale told by two equally noncredible sources. That is the real story — and a truly sad one."

                                Yeah....

                                "Two equally non credible sources..."

                                Many here will say that Trump lies. Will they have the same opinion of Goldberg and The Atlantic?

                                You made the point i was trying to make in my last post, but more eloquently. Since I’ve had considerable wine tonight That could be expected.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  @George-K said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                                  Turley comments:

                                  "The real story this week is not whether Trump or The Atlantic are lying but why either possibility is viewed as equally plausible. The public is left with an incredible tale told by two equally noncredible sources. That is the real story — and a truly sad one."

                                  Yeah....

                                  "Two equally non credible sources..."

                                  Many here will say that Trump lies. Will they have the same opinion of Goldberg and The Atlantic?

                                  You made the point i was trying to make in my last post, but more eloquently. Since I’ve had considerable wine tonight That could be expected.

                                  George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #42

                                  @Mik said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                                  I’ve had considerable wine tonight

                                  You say that as if it's a bad thing...

                                  But, to return to the thread.

                                  Based on the emails, it's obvious that The Atlantic has lied. If you're going to apply the "lie" standard to Trump, apply it to The Atlantic.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Mik

                                    Again, look at his actions. Does he seem like a president who doesn't respect our veterans? I can't see it. I don't think it is conceivable that he said, it, which is the essence of this thread.

                                    Look, the guy's an ass in many ways. But not this one.

                                    Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #43

                                    @Mik said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                                    Again, look at his actions. Does he seem like a president who doesn't respect our veterans? I can't see it.

                                    “He’s not a war hero. He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
                                    —Trump at a Family Leadership Summit in Ames, Iowa

                                    @Mik what are your thoughts on the above quote?

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • CopperC Online
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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #44

                                      Mr Trump remains occasionally impolite, no more or less than that.

                                      He does a more than acceptable job as president.

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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #45

                                        Aqua, that was a quote about one man who was constantly slagging him.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Aqua, that was a quote about one man who was constantly slagging him.

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                                          @Mik said in What bothers me about the trump veterans brouhaha:

                                          Aqua, that was a quote about one man who was constantly slagging him.

                                          And gave Comey the Steele Dossier.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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