Work from home - forever.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 02:38 last edited by
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 02:55 last edited by
The cost per vote in that transaction is so high, you just know it has to be the government paying for it.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 02:57 last edited by
Given that it can never get through Congress it must be some sort of executive order. Easily revoked.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 03:17 last edited by
No President can pass an EO that can’t be bypassed by another…
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 09:55 last edited by
Not that Officer Lew’s word isn’t gospel, but is there another source for this? I don’t even see a mention on Fox News.
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Not that Officer Lew’s word isn’t gospel, but is there another source for this? I don’t even see a mention on Fox News.
wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 12:35 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Work from home - forever.:
t is there another source for this?
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 12:40 last edited by Mik 12 Apr 2024, 12:45
This apparently only extends to Social Security workers through their union. I doubt it amounts to much more than a speedbump. It is difficult to imagine what onerous processes require 42,000 workers to administer this program that is largely done online. 72 million people receive SS benefits.
The American Federation of Government Employees, a union representing 42,000 Social Security Administration workers, reached an agreement with the agency last week that will protect telework until 2029 in an updated contract, according to a message to its members viewed by Bloomberg.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 13:06 last edited by
Here’s one that’s not paywalled:
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Given that it can never get through Congress it must be some sort of executive order. Easily revoked.
wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 13:08 last edited by@Mik said in Work from home - forever.:
Given that it can never get through Congress it must be some sort of executive order. Easily revoked.
Looks like a contract signed, which presumably agency executives are empowered by law to do. That could be hard to unilaterally break.
Maybe they could threaten layoffs or something and get the union to reopen it.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 13:09 last edited by
Or maybe they could just accept it, knowing there’s 2.2MM civilian federal employees and if they only have 2.16MM to work with that still a lot.
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This apparently only extends to Social Security workers through their union. I doubt it amounts to much more than a speedbump. It is difficult to imagine what onerous processes require 42,000 workers to administer this program that is largely done online. 72 million people receive SS benefits.
The American Federation of Government Employees, a union representing 42,000 Social Security Administration workers, reached an agreement with the agency last week that will protect telework until 2029 in an updated contract, according to a message to its members viewed by Bloomberg.
wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 13:19 last edited by@Mik said in Work from home - forever.:
This apparently only extends to Social Security workers through their union. I doubt it amounts to much more than a speedbump. It is difficult to imagine what onerous processes require 42,000 workers to administer this program that is largely done online. 72 million people receive SS benefits.
The American Federation of Government Employees, a union representing 42,000 Social Security Administration workers, reached an agreement with the agency last week that will protect telework until 2029 in an updated contract, according to a message to its members viewed by Bloomberg.
I had to go in-person to the local office. Especially in Louisiana (and very few other states), the website and 1-800 Social Security folks simply do not know how to handle WEP and GPO.
Secondly, I had an employer make a reporting mistake on reported earnings. That wasn't fixed until I sat down with my paperwork in front of a human.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 13:41 last edited by
Availability to the taxpayers they serve, transparency, accountability, and security. None of these are being served by having these people work from home. They must be in an office in a Federal facility. Preferably a new one in Florida, since this is SSA and Florida is where the seniors live. And not one of the sexy places in Florida, I’m thinking Ocala or even The Villages.
The Brad
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No President can pass an EO that can’t be bypassed by another…
wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 13:53 last edited by Copper 12 Apr 2024, 13:53@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
No President can pass an EO that can’t be bypassed by another…
And once he is king he won't answer to congress either, just ask Whoopie.
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Availability to the taxpayers they serve, transparency, accountability, and security. None of these are being served by having these people work from home. They must be in an office in a Federal facility. Preferably a new one in Florida, since this is SSA and Florida is where the seniors live. And not one of the sexy places in Florida, I’m thinking Ocala or even The Villages.
wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 15:15 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
Availability to the taxpayers they serve, transparency, accountability, and security. None of these are being served by having these people work from home. They must be in an office in a Federal facility. Preferably a new one in Florida, since this is SSA and Florida is where the seniors live. And not one of the sexy places in Florida, I’m thinking Ocala or even The Villages.
I was waiting for this response.
I don't really agree with you. These aren't elected officials, these are civilians hired to perform tasks for the federal government. If the tasks they need to perform do not include requirements that are only found in a federal office building, or do not require access by the public, then it doesn't really bother me where the person is located as long as the job is getting done.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
No President can pass an EO that can’t be bypassed by another…
And once he is king he won't answer to congress either, just ask Whoopie.
wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 15:16 last edited by@Copper said in Work from home - forever.:
@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
No President can pass an EO that can’t be bypassed by another…
And once he is king he won't answer to congress either, just ask
WhoopieKash Patel.NNTTM
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@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
Availability to the taxpayers they serve, transparency, accountability, and security. None of these are being served by having these people work from home. They must be in an office in a Federal facility. Preferably a new one in Florida, since this is SSA and Florida is where the seniors live. And not one of the sexy places in Florida, I’m thinking Ocala or even The Villages.
I was waiting for this response.
I don't really agree with you. These aren't elected officials, these are civilians hired to perform tasks for the federal government. If the tasks they need to perform do not include requirements that are only found in a federal office building, or do not require access by the public, then it doesn't really bother me where the person is located as long as the job is getting done.
wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 15:17 last edited by@89th said in Work from home - forever.:
@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
Availability to the taxpayers they serve, transparency, accountability, and security. None of these are being served by having these people work from home. They must be in an office in a Federal facility. Preferably a new one in Florida, since this is SSA and Florida is where the seniors live. And not one of the sexy places in Florida, I’m thinking Ocala or even The Villages.
I was waiting for this response.
I don't really agree with you. These aren't elected officials, these are civilians hired to perform tasks for the federal government. If the tasks they need to perform do not include requirements that are only found in a federal office building, or do not require access by the public, then it doesn't really bother me where the person is located as long as the job is getting done.
Says the guy who works remotely for the government.
Only non-witches get due process.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 15:23 last edited by
I dont get it? Another dumb move by President Biden.
There was a push (I thought by him, but probably mistaken) to have government workers go back to the office. Mainly because of the lowering taxes without workers in town, the decreased restaurant, store, etc. revenues.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
Availability to the taxpayers they serve, transparency, accountability, and security. None of these are being served by having these people work from home. They must be in an office in a Federal facility. Preferably a new one in Florida, since this is SSA and Florida is where the seniors live. And not one of the sexy places in Florida, I’m thinking Ocala or even The Villages.
I was waiting for this response.
I don't really agree with you. These aren't elected officials, these are civilians hired to perform tasks for the federal government. If the tasks they need to perform do not include requirements that are only found in a federal office building, or do not require access by the public, then it doesn't really bother me where the person is located as long as the job is getting done.
wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 15:31 last edited by@89th said in Work from home - forever.:
@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
Availability to the taxpayers they serve, transparency, accountability, and security. None of these are being served by having these people work from home. They must be in an office in a Federal facility. Preferably a new one in Florida, since this is SSA and Florida is where the seniors live. And not one of the sexy places in Florida, I’m thinking Ocala or even The Villages.
I was waiting for this response.
I don't really agree with you. These aren't elected officials, these are civilians hired to perform tasks for the federal government. If the tasks they need to perform do not include requirements that are only found in a federal office building, or do not require access by the public, then it doesn't really bother me where the person is located as long as the job is getting done.
I think it's a mistake to treat government workers differently from private sector people, either for better or worse. The idea that they're 'public servants working tirelessly for the common good' is as bogus as that they're all constantly on the make. I'm sure there are good and bad people on both sides.
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@89th said in Work from home - forever.:
@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
Availability to the taxpayers they serve, transparency, accountability, and security. None of these are being served by having these people work from home. They must be in an office in a Federal facility. Preferably a new one in Florida, since this is SSA and Florida is where the seniors live. And not one of the sexy places in Florida, I’m thinking Ocala or even The Villages.
I was waiting for this response.
I don't really agree with you. These aren't elected officials, these are civilians hired to perform tasks for the federal government. If the tasks they need to perform do not include requirements that are only found in a federal office building, or do not require access by the public, then it doesn't really bother me where the person is located as long as the job is getting done.
Says the guy who works remotely for the government.
wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 15:36 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Work from home - forever.:
@89th said in Work from home - forever.:
@LuFins-Dad said in Work from home - forever.:
Availability to the taxpayers they serve, transparency, accountability, and security. None of these are being served by having these people work from home. They must be in an office in a Federal facility. Preferably a new one in Florida, since this is SSA and Florida is where the seniors live. And not one of the sexy places in Florida, I’m thinking Ocala or even The Villages.
I was waiting for this response.
I don't really agree with you. These aren't elected officials, these are civilians hired to perform tasks for the federal government. If the tasks they need to perform do not include requirements that are only found in a federal office building, or do not require access by the public, then it doesn't really bother me where the person is located as long as the job is getting done.
Says the guy who works remotely for the government.
Haha fair enough. But I'm not a federal employee, although realistically my contract does "augment staff" (aka use a contractor and pay a rate instead of hiring an employee and all of the HR/benefits that come with it). Either way, I am a good example I suppose... I work in IT, I can't go into details but there is zero reason for me to be in a secure building when everything I do can be done via a remote connection.
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wrote on 4 Dec 2024, 15:39 last edited by
Send 'em back.
I could see letting them work from home maybe a day two per week, if the agency permits.
But...I didn't go into many federal agency offices, but I have been in a lot of state government agency offices. Remote work is a nightmare for management. You have enough problems with accountability, when you have the employee in the office everyday. Throw in the government union, with how hard they make it to discipline and terminate employees, and it's like trying to herd angry cats with a peach limb.
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