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So how should I resign?

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    In a parallel universe, another resignation ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/08/facebook-employee-quit-racism/

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    @Axtremus said in So how should I resign?:

    In a parallel universe, another resignation ...

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/08/facebook-employee-quit-racism/

    He took down his twitter page. I guess we don’t get to see his background, but enough is still out there to see his activism over the years. He has a right to his opinions and his resignation seems consistent.

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      Can we take the FB thing to another thread? Yeah, I get that threads go in different directions and all, but this is a serious thread where a member is going through serious issues at work and is asking for and receiving advice. This isn’t the place to change topics to some refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys needing a new home.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Can we take the FB thing to another thread? Yeah, I get that threads go in different directions and all, but this is a serious thread where a member is going through serious issues at work and is asking for and receiving advice. This isn’t the place to change topics to some refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys needing a new home.

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        @LuFins-Dad said in So how should I resign?:

        Can we take the FB thing to another thread? Yeah, I get that threads go in different directions and all, but this is a serious thread where a member is going through serious issues at work and is asking for and receiving advice. This isn’t the place to change topics to some refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys needing a new home.

        Amen.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

          That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.

          I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.

          As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.

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          @Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:

          @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

          That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.

          I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.

          As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.

          Dude, you ain't got stress, you have aggravation. I worked for almost a year, carrying an aluminum baseball bat in my vehicle...I had an absolute asshole I worked with, that I once told in public, that if he ever touched anything of mine again, I'd beat his ass half to death. Since he was a veteran of three combat tours, I figured I needed an equalizer.

          If stuff got down to brass tacks, I figured I was going to jail and if I'm going to jail, that SOB was going to be carried off the job, because he damn sure wasn't going to walk off.

          Now, thank God nothing happened. But guess what? Things change, they always do. Stress is always there, in one form or another, unless you're financially independent (as Mik says) and then stress just takes another form.

          One thing I learned in managing my broom closet of thirty-something folks...At least one of them is going to make it his mission in life to make sure you have a bad day. You just have to make up your mind, not to let the unimportant crap bother you. Because, what and who is really important? I

          Roll with the flow. Do not let the unimportant become the important.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:

            @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

            That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.

            I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.

            As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.

            Dude, you ain't got stress, you have aggravation. I worked for almost a year, carrying an aluminum baseball bat in my vehicle...I had an absolute asshole I worked with, that I once told in public, that if he ever touched anything of mine again, I'd beat his ass half to death. Since he was a veteran of three combat tours, I figured I needed an equalizer.

            If stuff got down to brass tacks, I figured I was going to jail and if I'm going to jail, that SOB was going to be carried off the job, because he damn sure wasn't going to walk off.

            Now, thank God nothing happened. But guess what? Things change, they always do. Stress is always there, in one form or another, unless you're financially independent (as Mik says) and then stress just takes another form.

            One thing I learned in managing my broom closet of thirty-something folks...At least one of them is going to make it his mission in life to make sure you have a bad day. You just have to make up your mind, not to let the unimportant crap bother you. Because, what and who is really important? I

            Roll with the flow. Do not let the unimportant become the important.

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            @Jolly said in So how should I resign?:

            Roll with the flow. Do not let the unimportant become the important.

            I've considered that. Specifically that maybe my shut-in status is warping my perspective by amplifying bullshit. I think it's likely.

            Please love yourself.

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              Holy shit this is getting ridiculous.

              My boss is out of town. On vacation. He gets an irate an quite frankly insane phone call. Basically the department head had some concerns about a project I was working on, shared these concerns in the margins of some documents, and asked me to follow up with the originators to clarify. Her concerns seemed reasonable enough, so I forwarded the documents over to the originators, told them hey, she's got a concern or two, she listed some comments in the documents, could you please take a look.

              According to the department head, what I should have done was, no shit, remove her comments from the document, list her concerns out in the email as my concerns, and the fact that I didn't do this proves that I have a secret vendetta against her and am trying to undermine her with the other departments. She told my boss that as my supervisor, she demands that he do something about me and she wants to know what it is.

              He said (in an email) it sounds like she's making a lot of things personal that aren't personal, and after reviewing the emails that were forwarded to him, he has to conclude that she's the one with the personal problem. He recommended we all speak to the CEO about this.

              She outright refused in her reply. Absolutely no would she be doing any of that. And we'll all be speaking about this together when my boss returns. My boss said I understand, but I'm still going to recommend to the CEO that we all speak together.

              Holy hell where does this end.

              Please love yourself.

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                With her being fired.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  Yeah. You’re good. Now she’s in the hole and digging further.

                  The Brad

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                    Don't try to take that shovel out of her hands. She's doing fine. For you to reformat all that sounds like she was trying to set YOU up because that would have been a complete waste of time. Which is entirely possible

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      This is good news. She's gone too far, and finally done it in a way that the execs can see. They probably have been waiting for this moment. I'm betting they are eager to be rid of her with documented cause.

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                        Straight up, you all are smarter than me about all this. You're all saying everything my boss is saying. I think it's much more likely my boss and I lose our jobs early next week. She's already got HR vouching for her always. If the CEO decides to back her, too, we're sunk.

                        CEO's EA is still livid. Just got off the phone with her. She's inserting herself into this, too, so there's that.

                        Please love yourself.

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                          female(with HR) vs white male under 40

                          You lose

                          Sorry, but privilege has a cost

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                            I suspect the biggest problem isn't Aqua's innate privilege, more likely it's her pay-grade.

                            Still, they could get rid of a very expensive looney-toon.

                            I was only joking

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                              When an exec continually has conflicts with an employee eventually they start looking at the exec. That should happen here, especially since you just did what she asked you to do. If she wnted it reformatted she should have made that clear up front.

                              Again, if you you don't tell people what you want, don't blame them if you don't get it.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                I suspect the biggest problem isn't Aqua's innate privilege, more likely it's her pay-grade.

                                Still, they could get rid of a very expensive looney-toon.

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in So how should I resign?:

                                I suspect the biggest problem isn't Aqua's innate privilege, more likely it's her pay-grade.

                                Still, they could get rid of a very expensive looney-toon.

                                Management does not like problem children. The only reason they have suffered her this long, is because she's female.

                                She has now become an irritant.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  She's speaking with HR, apparently, making her move. Likely Waterloo will be Monday-Tuesday next week. I've already had a Notice of Final Action against me, and our HR "consultant" would very much love to see me fired.

                                  On the other side of things you have many staff members who have problems with her, and have vouched for me, as is my boss and the EA.

                                  I'm torn between seeing all this out, out of respect for my friends, and jumping ship right damn now.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    You didn't do anything here, unless you wrote to the originator in language that implied 'this dumb bitch has these silly-ass concerns. Please comment'. If your language was neutral and helpful she's got nothing.

                                    Even if you do get fired you can be sure that she will not be far behind. Either that or the organization will see a talent exodus.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      You didn't do anything here, unless you wrote to the originator in language that implied 'this dumb bitch has these silly-ass concerns. Please comment'. If your language was neutral and helpful she's got nothing.

                                      Even if you do get fired you can be sure that she will not be far behind. Either that or the organization will see a talent exodus.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

                                      You didn't do anything here, unless you wrote to the originator in language that implied 'this dumb bitch has these silly-ass concerns. Please comment'. If your language was neutral and helpful she's got nothing.

                                      Nope, my boss and I went over that very thoroughly. We're good there.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        I have nothing to add to the thoughts that everyone else has expressed.

                                        Just hope it works out for you - and I think it will.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:

                                          h love to see me fired.
                                          On the other side of things you have many staff members who have problems with her, and have vouched for me, as is my boss and the EA.
                                          I'm torn between seeing all this out, out of respect fo

                                          My guess is that HR may be facing their own issues from this. You mentioned that HR actually made this hire? And they keep backing her? On top of that, who filed the Notice of Final Action and what was that concerning? If it was based on all of these recent interactions with this lady, your HR person may be sweating.

                                          The Brad

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