So how should I resign?
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I dunno. It's not as simple as that, especially if they try to hit me with gross incompetence. Which, sure as shit, this woman is going to try very hard to do.
Then there's the time it takes to do the shitty work I'm asked to do. When people who have no idea what they're doing direct your work, at the end of the day, you've nothing to be proud of and your career stagnates.
EA speaks with CEO Thursday. Let's see what happens.
@Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:
I dunno. It's not as simple as that, especially if they try to hit me with gross incompetence. Which, sure as shit, this woman is going to try very hard to do.
Then there's the time it takes to do the shitty work I'm asked to do. When people who have no idea what they're doing direct your work, at the end of the day, you've nothing to be proud of and your career stagnates.
EA speaks with CEO Thursday. Let's see what happens.
You are clearly talking this out which is great. I think writing down what is causing the stress line by line and then ranking them might help. For example the gross incompetence letter might be the highest. Being pissed off in general how stupid people are may be something you can reframe. Clearly working there long term is no good but ideally you would like to time it so that you are have the most/best options when you walk out.
Exercise is always the best alleviation.
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In a parallel universe, another resignation ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/08/facebook-employee-quit-racism/
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In a parallel universe, another resignation ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/08/facebook-employee-quit-racism/
@Axtremus said in So how should I resign?:
In a parallel universe, another resignation ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/08/facebook-employee-quit-racism/
He took down his twitter page. I guess we don’t get to see his background, but enough is still out there to see his activism over the years. He has a right to his opinions and his resignation seems consistent.
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Can we take the FB thing to another thread? Yeah, I get that threads go in different directions and all, but this is a serious thread where a member is going through serious issues at work and is asking for and receiving advice. This isn’t the place to change topics to some refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys needing a new home.
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Can we take the FB thing to another thread? Yeah, I get that threads go in different directions and all, but this is a serious thread where a member is going through serious issues at work and is asking for and receiving advice. This isn’t the place to change topics to some refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys needing a new home.
@LuFins-Dad said in So how should I resign?:
Can we take the FB thing to another thread? Yeah, I get that threads go in different directions and all, but this is a serious thread where a member is going through serious issues at work and is asking for and receiving advice. This isn’t the place to change topics to some refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys needing a new home.
Amen.
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@Mik said in So how should I resign?:
That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.
I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.
As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.
@Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:
@Mik said in So how should I resign?:
That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.
I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.
As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.
Dude, you ain't got stress, you have aggravation. I worked for almost a year, carrying an aluminum baseball bat in my vehicle...I had an absolute asshole I worked with, that I once told in public, that if he ever touched anything of mine again, I'd beat his ass half to death. Since he was a veteran of three combat tours, I figured I needed an equalizer.
If stuff got down to brass tacks, I figured I was going to jail and if I'm going to jail, that SOB was going to be carried off the job, because he damn sure wasn't going to walk off.
Now, thank God nothing happened. But guess what? Things change, they always do. Stress is always there, in one form or another, unless you're financially independent (as Mik says) and then stress just takes another form.
One thing I learned in managing my broom closet of thirty-something folks...At least one of them is going to make it his mission in life to make sure you have a bad day. You just have to make up your mind, not to let the unimportant crap bother you. Because, what and who is really important? I
Roll with the flow. Do not let the unimportant become the important.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:
@Mik said in So how should I resign?:
That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.
I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.
As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.
Dude, you ain't got stress, you have aggravation. I worked for almost a year, carrying an aluminum baseball bat in my vehicle...I had an absolute asshole I worked with, that I once told in public, that if he ever touched anything of mine again, I'd beat his ass half to death. Since he was a veteran of three combat tours, I figured I needed an equalizer.
If stuff got down to brass tacks, I figured I was going to jail and if I'm going to jail, that SOB was going to be carried off the job, because he damn sure wasn't going to walk off.
Now, thank God nothing happened. But guess what? Things change, they always do. Stress is always there, in one form or another, unless you're financially independent (as Mik says) and then stress just takes another form.
One thing I learned in managing my broom closet of thirty-something folks...At least one of them is going to make it his mission in life to make sure you have a bad day. You just have to make up your mind, not to let the unimportant crap bother you. Because, what and who is really important? I
Roll with the flow. Do not let the unimportant become the important.
@Jolly said in So how should I resign?:
Roll with the flow. Do not let the unimportant become the important.
I've considered that. Specifically that maybe my shut-in status is warping my perspective by amplifying bullshit. I think it's likely.
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Holy shit this is getting ridiculous.
My boss is out of town. On vacation. He gets an irate an quite frankly insane phone call. Basically the department head had some concerns about a project I was working on, shared these concerns in the margins of some documents, and asked me to follow up with the originators to clarify. Her concerns seemed reasonable enough, so I forwarded the documents over to the originators, told them hey, she's got a concern or two, she listed some comments in the documents, could you please take a look.
According to the department head, what I should have done was, no shit, remove her comments from the document, list her concerns out in the email as my concerns, and the fact that I didn't do this proves that I have a secret vendetta against her and am trying to undermine her with the other departments. She told my boss that as my supervisor, she demands that he do something about me and she wants to know what it is.
He said (in an email) it sounds like she's making a lot of things personal that aren't personal, and after reviewing the emails that were forwarded to him, he has to conclude that she's the one with the personal problem. He recommended we all speak to the CEO about this.
She outright refused in her reply. Absolutely no would she be doing any of that. And we'll all be speaking about this together when my boss returns. My boss said I understand, but I'm still going to recommend to the CEO that we all speak together.
Holy hell where does this end.
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Yeah. You’re good. Now she’s in the hole and digging further.
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Straight up, you all are smarter than me about all this. You're all saying everything my boss is saying. I think it's much more likely my boss and I lose our jobs early next week. She's already got HR vouching for her always. If the CEO decides to back her, too, we're sunk.
CEO's EA is still livid. Just got off the phone with her. She's inserting herself into this, too, so there's that.
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I suspect the biggest problem isn't Aqua's innate privilege, more likely it's her pay-grade.
Still, they could get rid of a very expensive looney-toon.
I was only joking
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When an exec continually has conflicts with an employee eventually they start looking at the exec. That should happen here, especially since you just did what she asked you to do. If she wnted it reformatted she should have made that clear up front.
Again, if you you don't tell people what you want, don't blame them if you don't get it.
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I suspect the biggest problem isn't Aqua's innate privilege, more likely it's her pay-grade.
Still, they could get rid of a very expensive looney-toon.
@Doctor-Phibes said in So how should I resign?:
I suspect the biggest problem isn't Aqua's innate privilege, more likely it's her pay-grade.
Still, they could get rid of a very expensive looney-toon.
Management does not like problem children. The only reason they have suffered her this long, is because she's female.
She has now become an irritant.
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She's speaking with HR, apparently, making her move. Likely Waterloo will be Monday-Tuesday next week. I've already had a Notice of Final Action against me, and our HR "consultant" would very much love to see me fired.
On the other side of things you have many staff members who have problems with her, and have vouched for me, as is my boss and the EA.
I'm torn between seeing all this out, out of respect for my friends, and jumping ship right damn now.
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You didn't do anything here, unless you wrote to the originator in language that implied 'this dumb bitch has these silly-ass concerns. Please comment'. If your language was neutral and helpful she's got nothing.
Even if you do get fired you can be sure that she will not be far behind. Either that or the organization will see a talent exodus.
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You didn't do anything here, unless you wrote to the originator in language that implied 'this dumb bitch has these silly-ass concerns. Please comment'. If your language was neutral and helpful she's got nothing.
Even if you do get fired you can be sure that she will not be far behind. Either that or the organization will see a talent exodus.
@Mik said in So how should I resign?:
You didn't do anything here, unless you wrote to the originator in language that implied 'this dumb bitch has these silly-ass concerns. Please comment'. If your language was neutral and helpful she's got nothing.
Nope, my boss and I went over that very thoroughly. We're good there.
