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So how should I resign?

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  • MikM Mik

    Somebody finally wised them up to how much they could save by closing the office space. Finally.

    Aqua, I still maintain they will not fire you. They are more likely to fire your nemesis.

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    Loki
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    @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

    Somebody finally wised them up to how much they could save by closing the office space. Finally.

    Aqua, I still maintain they will not fire you. They are more likely to fire your nemesis.

    I have the same exact read.

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      @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

      Somebody finally wised them up to how much they could save by closing the office space. Finally.

      Aqua, I still maintain they will not fire you. They are more likely to fire your nemesis.

      I have the same exact read.

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      @Loki said in So how should I resign?:

      @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

      Somebody finally wised them up to how much they could save by closing the office space. Finally.

      Aqua, I still maintain they will not fire you. They are more likely to fire your nemesis.

      I have the same exact read.

      How long you think it'll take, then?

      It's a stress issue at this point. As you all are more aware than any other group alive, I'm not good at holding my tongue. Not because I'm some kind of badass or malcontent, I just hate bullshit and it's very tiring and stressful to say shit you don't mean. I'm sick and tired of keeping this shit up.

      My resting heart rate went down by 10 damn points on Friday, stayed down, and now it's up by 12. Blood pressure went from hypertension, to normal, back to hypertension. This shit is not good for me. I don't want to stick it out on a "maybe."

      Please love yourself.

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      • MikM Away
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        Mik
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        What stress are you trading for by resigning?

        Everything is a tradeoff. Perhaps you need to focus on being a bit more zen about these things - y'know, changing the things I can (how you respond), accepting the things I can't (what these assholes will do next).

        There will never be a shortage of these peope in your life until you have great financial security.

        That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with. 😆

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          What stress are you trading for by resigning?

          Everything is a tradeoff. Perhaps you need to focus on being a bit more zen about these things - y'know, changing the things I can (how you respond), accepting the things I can't (what these assholes will do next).

          There will never be a shortage of these peope in your life until you have great financial security.

          That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with. 😆

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          @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

          That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.

          I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.

          As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

            That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.

            I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.

            As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:

            @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

            That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.

            I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.

            As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.

            So remove the stress. That doesn’t mean resign, that just means go ahead and stop giving a flying you know what. Embrace the freedom of being willing and able to walk away and start enjoying yourself. If they fire you, yay! If they don’t, then yay! These people no longer have any power over you. Knowing that, do what you feel you need to short of going to jail or screwing over your coworkers that may not be as fortunate.

            The Brad

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              Aqua Letifer
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              I dunno. It's not as simple as that, especially if they try to hit me with gross incompetence. Which, sure as shit, this woman is going to try very hard to do.

              Then there's the time it takes to do the shitty work I'm asked to do. When people who have no idea what they're doing direct your work, at the end of the day, you've nothing to be proud of and your career stagnates.

              EA speaks with CEO Thursday. Let's see what happens.

              Please love yourself.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                I dunno. It's not as simple as that, especially if they try to hit me with gross incompetence. Which, sure as shit, this woman is going to try very hard to do.

                Then there's the time it takes to do the shitty work I'm asked to do. When people who have no idea what they're doing direct your work, at the end of the day, you've nothing to be proud of and your career stagnates.

                EA speaks with CEO Thursday. Let's see what happens.

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                @Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:

                I dunno. It's not as simple as that, especially if they try to hit me with gross incompetence. Which, sure as shit, this woman is going to try very hard to do.

                Then there's the time it takes to do the shitty work I'm asked to do. When people who have no idea what they're doing direct your work, at the end of the day, you've nothing to be proud of and your career stagnates.

                EA speaks with CEO Thursday. Let's see what happens.

                You are clearly talking this out which is great. I think writing down what is causing the stress line by line and then ranking them might help. For example the gross incompetence letter might be the highest. Being pissed off in general how stupid people are may be something you can reframe. Clearly working there long term is no good but ideally you would like to time it so that you are have the most/best options when you walk out.

                Exercise is always the best alleviation.

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                  In a parallel universe, another resignation ...

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/08/facebook-employee-quit-racism/

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                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    In a parallel universe, another resignation ...

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/08/facebook-employee-quit-racism/

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                    @Axtremus said in So how should I resign?:

                    In a parallel universe, another resignation ...

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/09/08/facebook-employee-quit-racism/

                    He took down his twitter page. I guess we don’t get to see his background, but enough is still out there to see his activism over the years. He has a right to his opinions and his resignation seems consistent.

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                      Can we take the FB thing to another thread? Yeah, I get that threads go in different directions and all, but this is a serious thread where a member is going through serious issues at work and is asking for and receiving advice. This isn’t the place to change topics to some refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys needing a new home.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        Can we take the FB thing to another thread? Yeah, I get that threads go in different directions and all, but this is a serious thread where a member is going through serious issues at work and is asking for and receiving advice. This isn’t the place to change topics to some refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys needing a new home.

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in So how should I resign?:

                        Can we take the FB thing to another thread? Yeah, I get that threads go in different directions and all, but this is a serious thread where a member is going through serious issues at work and is asking for and receiving advice. This isn’t the place to change topics to some refugee from the Island of Misfit Toys needing a new home.

                        Amen.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

                          That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.

                          I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.

                          As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.

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                          @Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:

                          @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

                          That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.

                          I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.

                          As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.

                          Dude, you ain't got stress, you have aggravation. I worked for almost a year, carrying an aluminum baseball bat in my vehicle...I had an absolute asshole I worked with, that I once told in public, that if he ever touched anything of mine again, I'd beat his ass half to death. Since he was a veteran of three combat tours, I figured I needed an equalizer.

                          If stuff got down to brass tacks, I figured I was going to jail and if I'm going to jail, that SOB was going to be carried off the job, because he damn sure wasn't going to walk off.

                          Now, thank God nothing happened. But guess what? Things change, they always do. Stress is always there, in one form or another, unless you're financially independent (as Mik says) and then stress just takes another form.

                          One thing I learned in managing my broom closet of thirty-something folks...At least one of them is going to make it his mission in life to make sure you have a bad day. You just have to make up your mind, not to let the unimportant crap bother you. Because, what and who is really important? I

                          Roll with the flow. Do not let the unimportant become the important.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in So how should I resign?:

                            @Mik said in So how should I resign?:

                            That said, I have never been able to tolerate bullies in my life. That may be why in so many organizations that was the first person I chose to pick a fight with.

                            I do that, too, but it just naturally happens, I don't look for it. I don't hold high-status positions, though, so my thing usually is that things either get worked out or I have to walk.

                            As for other stress, I'd gladly take it. I can make it a year with things being as they are now. That gives me a year to find something better. I have to think I can figure something out in that time.

                            Dude, you ain't got stress, you have aggravation. I worked for almost a year, carrying an aluminum baseball bat in my vehicle...I had an absolute asshole I worked with, that I once told in public, that if he ever touched anything of mine again, I'd beat his ass half to death. Since he was a veteran of three combat tours, I figured I needed an equalizer.

                            If stuff got down to brass tacks, I figured I was going to jail and if I'm going to jail, that SOB was going to be carried off the job, because he damn sure wasn't going to walk off.

                            Now, thank God nothing happened. But guess what? Things change, they always do. Stress is always there, in one form or another, unless you're financially independent (as Mik says) and then stress just takes another form.

                            One thing I learned in managing my broom closet of thirty-something folks...At least one of them is going to make it his mission in life to make sure you have a bad day. You just have to make up your mind, not to let the unimportant crap bother you. Because, what and who is really important? I

                            Roll with the flow. Do not let the unimportant become the important.

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                            Aqua Letifer
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                            @Jolly said in So how should I resign?:

                            Roll with the flow. Do not let the unimportant become the important.

                            I've considered that. Specifically that maybe my shut-in status is warping my perspective by amplifying bullshit. I think it's likely.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              Holy shit this is getting ridiculous.

                              My boss is out of town. On vacation. He gets an irate an quite frankly insane phone call. Basically the department head had some concerns about a project I was working on, shared these concerns in the margins of some documents, and asked me to follow up with the originators to clarify. Her concerns seemed reasonable enough, so I forwarded the documents over to the originators, told them hey, she's got a concern or two, she listed some comments in the documents, could you please take a look.

                              According to the department head, what I should have done was, no shit, remove her comments from the document, list her concerns out in the email as my concerns, and the fact that I didn't do this proves that I have a secret vendetta against her and am trying to undermine her with the other departments. She told my boss that as my supervisor, she demands that he do something about me and she wants to know what it is.

                              He said (in an email) it sounds like she's making a lot of things personal that aren't personal, and after reviewing the emails that were forwarded to him, he has to conclude that she's the one with the personal problem. He recommended we all speak to the CEO about this.

                              She outright refused in her reply. Absolutely no would she be doing any of that. And we'll all be speaking about this together when my boss returns. My boss said I understand, but I'm still going to recommend to the CEO that we all speak together.

                              Holy hell where does this end.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                With her being fired.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  Yeah. You’re good. Now she’s in the hole and digging further.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Don't try to take that shovel out of her hands. She's doing fine. For you to reformat all that sounds like she was trying to set YOU up because that would have been a complete waste of time. Which is entirely possible

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      This is good news. She's gone too far, and finally done it in a way that the execs can see. They probably have been waiting for this moment. I'm betting they are eager to be rid of her with documented cause.

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                                        Straight up, you all are smarter than me about all this. You're all saying everything my boss is saying. I think it's much more likely my boss and I lose our jobs early next week. She's already got HR vouching for her always. If the CEO decides to back her, too, we're sunk.

                                        CEO's EA is still livid. Just got off the phone with her. She's inserting herself into this, too, so there's that.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          female(with HR) vs white male under 40

                                          You lose

                                          Sorry, but privilege has a cost

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