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The Hegseth "incident."

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 14:23 last edited by
    #80

    I wasn’t summarizing her post, I was disagreeing with it.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 14:23 last edited by
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      Maybe they should put him in charge of Veteran Affairs.

      So many punchlines, so little time.

      I was only joking

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        Copper
        wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 16:01 last edited by Copper 12 May 2024, 16:01
        #82

        In 2023, over 29,000 active-duty troops were sexually assaulted

        One about every 20 minutes, about 12% of active duty women each year

        At that rate, it would take about 8 years to assault them all.

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          Darth Putin
          wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 22:17 last edited by
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            George K
            wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 01:21 last edited by
            #84

            Joni Ernst is a "nope."

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 02:02 last edited by
              #85

              He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

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              • T taiwan_girl
                6 Dec 2024, 02:02

                He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

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                George K
                wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 02:06 last edited by
                #86

                @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

                I agree - though maybe over the weekend.

                Although I found the allegations against him to be a bit dodgy - especially the "rape"accusation - his qualifications always seemed to be a bit on the thin side.

                Because you've done tours into a war zone, and your "buddies" support you, that's not enough to head a huge government department.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 02:12 last edited by
                  #87

                  Give him a vote.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • G George K
                    6 Dec 2024, 02:06

                    @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                    He's done. I expect a "withdraw my nomination" statement later today.

                    I agree - though maybe over the weekend.

                    Although I found the allegations against him to be a bit dodgy - especially the "rape"accusation - his qualifications always seemed to be a bit on the thin side.

                    Because you've done tours into a war zone, and your "buddies" support you, that's not enough to head a huge government department.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 12:45 last edited by
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                    @George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                    Because you've done tours into a war zone, and your "buddies" support you, that's not enough to head a huge government department.

                    The reality is he was chosen because of his celebrity more than his combat experience. After all, there are thousands of people with that. And doing Fox stuff definitely doesn't prepare anybody for running a government department.

                    I was only joking

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 13:09 last edited by
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                      I think a lot of you are forgetting his masters degree in Public Policy and the several books that he’s written detailing the inadequacies of today’s military and list ls multiple ways to fix those inadequacies. Those books are very highly regarded among retired military officers.

                      It’s a mistake to dismiss him out of hand as being a celebrity pick. Quite frankly, the weekend cohost of Fox & Friends is hardly great celebrity. The guy is a serious military pedagogue.

                      The Brad

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                        6 Dec 2024, 13:09

                        I think a lot of you are forgetting his masters degree in Public Policy and the several books that he’s written detailing the inadequacies of today’s military and list ls multiple ways to fix those inadequacies. Those books are very highly regarded among retired military officers.

                        It’s a mistake to dismiss him out of hand as being a celebrity pick. Quite frankly, the weekend cohost of Fox & Friends is hardly great celebrity. The guy is a serious military pedagogue.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 13:11 last edited by
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                        I think a lot of you are forgetting his masters degree in Public Policy and the several books that he’s written detailing the inadequacies of today’s military

                        Forgotten? I was unaware.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 13:13 last edited by
                          #91

                          I forget nothing. I know little.

                          I was only joking

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 13:21 last edited by
                            #92

                            The media will focus on the women in combat, removal of trans soldiers, firing the woke generals, etc…

                            They aren’t talking about the ideas of completely revamping the promotion structure of the military. The new education programs for training officers, etc… They also are ignoring his take on the very nature of the purpose of the military.

                            The Brad

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                              6 Dec 2024, 02:12

                              Give him a vote.

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 14:10 last edited by taiwan_girl 12 Jun 2024, 14:12
                              #93

                              @Jolly

                              Give him a vote.

                              I dont think that President Trump would want that.

                              WIthdraw is better than a "no" vote for him.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 14:49 last edited by
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                                Washington Post yesterday:

                                Such awards were issued somewhat liberally throughout the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, experts say. Awardees of the meritorious service medal are predominantly military officers like Hegseth, data provided by the military shows. While many officers have risked their lives on the battlefield, the majority of fighting and exposure to danger is performed by the enlisted troops they command.

                                Ah...wait, he DID serve in combat the explain.

                                Hegseth also received a Combat Infantryman Badge, which is awarded when infantry soldiers and officers engage an enemy in combat.

                                For the Washington Post in 2018 a Bronze Star was something to be mentioned, a lot. And they don't comment that it was issued "liberally."

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                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 15:22 last edited by
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                                  Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                                  I was only joking

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                                    6 Dec 2024, 15:22

                                    Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 15:35 last edited by
                                    #96

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                    Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                                    If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      taiwan_girl
                                      wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 15:39 last edited by
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                                      https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5024462-blumenthal-republican-senators-hegseth/?email=467cb6399cb7df64551775e431052b43a775c749&emaila=12a6d4d069cd56cfddaa391c24eb7042&emailb=054528e7403871c79f668e49dd3c44b1ec00c7f611bf9388f76bb2324d6ca5f3&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12.05.24. — Defense %26 National Security

                                      From Sen. Blumenthal

                                      “The power of the presidency, not to mention this president-elect, and what the retribution might be, I think, is pretty daunting, and so I think Republicans are reluctant to step forward and be the first one, but I think privately, they’re much readier to advise the president that the better part of wisdom would be to urge withdrawal of this nomination.”

                                      “I’d be surprised if we’re still talking about Hegseth at the end of the week or by Monday,” Blumenthal added.

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                                        6 Dec 2024, 15:39

                                        https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5024462-blumenthal-republican-senators-hegseth/?email=467cb6399cb7df64551775e431052b43a775c749&emaila=12a6d4d069cd56cfddaa391c24eb7042&emailb=054528e7403871c79f668e49dd3c44b1ec00c7f611bf9388f76bb2324d6ca5f3&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=12.05.24. — Defense %26 National Security

                                        From Sen. Blumenthal

                                        “The power of the presidency, not to mention this president-elect, and what the retribution might be, I think, is pretty daunting, and so I think Republicans are reluctant to step forward and be the first one, but I think privately, they’re much readier to advise the president that the better part of wisdom would be to urge withdrawal of this nomination.”

                                        “I’d be surprised if we’re still talking about Hegseth at the end of the week or by Monday,” Blumenthal added.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 15:48 last edited by
                                        #98

                                        @taiwan_girl said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                        Sen. Blumenthal

                                        The guy who pretended to be a VietNam vet....

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • G George K
                                          6 Dec 2024, 15:35

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                                          If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 6 Dec 2024, 15:49 last edited by
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                                          @George-K said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in The Hegseth "incident.":

                                          Imagine undermining and denigrating a former combat soldiers experience like that just for political reasons. Shameful!

                                          If Hegseth gets confirmed, and I have my doubts, at least he won't go AWOL for 7-10 days without telling POTUS.

                                          Let's hope he doesn't get taken prisoner. Trump hates that.

                                          I was only joking

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